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My Exodus from The Moorish Science Temple of America. Inc

A written account from Bro. Christopher Bennett-Bey expresses candidly why he left The Moorish Science Temple of America Inc headquartered within Washington DC under the leadership of             R. Jones Bey.

 The Beginning of The End

My first encounter with the Chief Minister/Shaykh Ra Saadi El Present Supreme Grand Sheik of The Moorish Science Temple of America-1928

Elihu said to Mary and Elizabeth “there are no happening, that law governs all events”. So when I look back on my first conversation with the Chief Minister Bro. Ra Saadi El, I realize this was a conversation that had to happen and could not have happen any other way.

It started with a phone call from Bro. JL Williams-Bey ofTemple#12, which I was the Grand Governor and Grand Sheik of at the time. The brother called me asking for help concerning a telephone conversation he just hung up from. I could tell from his voice he was really disturbed and seemed shaken. I asked him what the issue was and he stated that he didn’t know that saying my name would get him into so much trouble.

I was confused by this and asked him to explain what he meant. He told me that he went online to look for some books and information about the Holy Prophet Noble Drew Ali. Since the Moorish Science Temple of America Inc., the Grand Body which we both were under, didn’t sell any books on Moorish History or study material, he decided to look elsewhere.

Which lead him to The Moorish Science Temple of America – 1928.  He stated that after seeing some items that interested him he decided to place an order. At first all seem well until the Bro. Ra Saadi El asked him what temple he belongs to?

Bro. JL Williams-Bey, thinking this is an honest question and since he as a faithful Moor, said that he was a member of Temple #12 in Charlotte, North Carolina. At that point Bro. Williams-Bey said the conversation changed. He states that the Chief Minister “went off on him” asking him was he a member of “that Temple where the brother (that brother being me, Bro. C. Bennett Bey) was going around saying that if you’re not a member of his Temple then your not a Moorish American?”

 Brother Williams-Bey said that he wasn’t sure what Bro. Ra Saadi El was talking about, but did explain to him that his Grand Sheik was Bro. Bennett Bey and Bro. Ra Saadi El explain to him that I was the brother he was referring to. Bro. Williams-Bey said from that point on the conversation was…let’s just say the words Islam or Peace weren’t being used.  He wanted to know if I could help him because all he wanted to do was to purchase some material to study and Bro. Ra Saadi El refuse to sell him anything. I ask the brother for the number and decide to give Sheik Ra Saadi El a call. As I starting dialing the numbers to call the man who just beat up one of my members, my Higher Self ask Allah for the words to say in order that we may have a peaceful conversation.

As the for phone rang I  realize this was the brother that I had heard about who started a Moorish University, which by the way I didn’t give much credence to since it wasn’t part of the Grand Body I belong too. A man answered the phone and I asked may I speak with Bro. Ra Saadi El. The voice on the phone stated that this is the Chief Minister Ra Saadi El speaking, “How may I help you”?

I told him that this was Bro. C. Bennett Bey from Charlotte, NC and wanted to know if I could speak with him for a moment. He said in a very excited voice, “OOOOOH BRO. BENNETT- BEY….  YEAH, WE CAN TALK!!! HOLD ON A MOMENT!!!”

At this point I could hear the sound in the phone change which told me he had just put me on speaker phone. This also indicated to me that he was ready to let me have some of what he just gave to Bro. Williams-Bey. And by putting me on speaker phone he wanted everyone in the room to hear the beat down he was about put on me and I was sure my dosage was going to be much worse than that of Bro. Williams-Bey.

Before we started talking I remember saying to him that this conversation was long overdue and that we should have spoken earlier and not under these circumstances. I mention to him that Bro. Williams-Bey called me upset because he spoke rather harsh to the brother. And that the brother only wanted to purchase some books from him. And the lesson states, if your brother needs your assistance, as a Moor you should assist him.

The Bro. Ra Saadi El stated I was correct; however since I was in North Carolina telling the news paper, that if you weren’t a member of my Temple and Grand Body that being of the Moorish Science Temple of America Inc under Bro. R.Jones Bey, you weren’t truly a Moorish American.

And if that’s the case, he wasn’t required to sell anything to Bro. Williams-Bey, since by my standard he (Bro. Ra Saadi El) wasn’t a true Moorish American anyway, “isn’t that right BROTHER!!!”

 I explained to him that my comments weren’t directed at him but more towards the individuals that were going around the state of North Carolina calling themselves Moors and stealing homes and property in the name of our Holy Prophet Noble Drew Ali.

During our conversation Bro. Ra Saadi El voice went up a few octaves but all-in-all he spoke calmly. In that first call the he shared with me some of the history concerning the battle between Bro. Mealy El and Bro. Kirkman Bey. I told him that I wasn’t really interested in talking about that.

 I said to him that on Judgment Day when I will stand before Allah and have to give an account for my actions. That when the record book is opened, what I do not want written down beside my name is that, I played a part in continuing an 85 year old argument, that hasn’t done this movement any good but has only harmed it.

 He agreed that the argument didn’t make sense but stated, if you are going to be a Moorish Leader you must know your own history and understand how the movement got to this point.

I couldn’t argue with what he said because he was correct. I knew little about the history since very few Moors in the Grand Body I was a part of never really talked about what happen after the Untimely death of Our Holy and Divine Prophet.

Anyway, our conversation lasted for nearly an hour and the Chief Minister was never rude and didn’t use a single profane word towards me. By the end of the conversation he said something to me that would change my life forever. He stated “Brother I can work with you” and it was in a tone much different than the one he answered the phone with.

By the end of the call we agreed to continue talking to each other and I expressed a desire to learn as much as he was willing to share. He agreed he would help me anyway he could, then said tell Bro. Williams Bey to call him back and he would ship the books right out to him. When I hung the phone up I felt the call went really well, especially when I considered the beating he gave Bro.  Williams-Bey.

A True Defender of the Faith

An eyewitness account of The Chief Minister Shaykh Ra Saadi El meeting with two Imams who sit over the largest Al-Islamic communities in the State of North Carolina and who are the head Chaplains for North Carolina State Prisons; how the Chief gave a solid lesson on Islamism as practice by true Moorish American Moslems in defending the rights of inmates who chosen to become members of The Moorish Science Temple of America-1928 under the leadership of Shaykh Ra Saadi El.

That First call with the Bro. Ra Saadi El was on July 26, 2011, and as promised he continue to talk with me and educated me on what it meant to be a Moorish American, a member of the Temple, a Sheik, Divine Minister and most importantly what it means to be a Moslem.

You see what I learned from him was that the title of Sheik, Divine Minister and even the title member. Can all be given to you by someone in a leadership positions, even if the person handing out the titles hasn’t really earned the title themselves.

However the title of Moslem, you have to earn that. No man can give you the title of a Moslem, you are either living the life of a Moslem or you’re not and Allah will judge you accordingly.

We talk nearly every day on the phone for hours at a time. The brother would share with me some of the issues that he was having with some of the prisons in the state of North Carolina. “Some of the issues were due in part to the position that some chaplains had taken in regards to what he was teaching”.

He was also being met with opposition from The Moorish Science Temple of America Inc., which he would refer to in our conversations as the 34 group.  He asked me would I accompany him to a meeting in Concord,NC to meet with Betty Brown, who is the head of Chaplain Service for all the North Carolina State prisons.

Since I was in agreement with everything that he was teaching and it was obvious that he was clearly more qualified and a much better teacher than anyone in the 34 group including myself.” I agreed to go to the meeting with him. I was going to this meeting to give my support to the Chief and express my desire to work with him when it came to teaching the Moors in the North Carolinaprisons”. Mind you, the Chief wasn’t asking me to come with him in order to get my permission or anyone from the 34 group permission. He just asked me to come with him to show them that there isn’t any issue between he and I, since I was then the actual  Grand Governor for North Carolina.

The Chief, along with his wife, Gov. Yssis Saadi El, Gov. Jakada Makkah and I arrived for the meeting on December 22, 2011.  We were told that we would be meeting with Chaplain Betty A. Brown, Director of Chaplaincy Services, Chaplain Oliver S. Mohammad and Chaplain Khalil A. Akbar. Chaplain Mohammad and

Chaplain Akbar I soon found out, both work for the prison system as Muslim Chaplains.  Before the meeting started we were informed that Chaplain Betty Brown would not be at the meeting because she was not feeling well.

“The ironic thing about this was, the Chief had already told me in a previous conversation before the meeting, that Betty Brown wasn’t going to be at the meeting and once again he was correct. But what surprise me was that he told both the Imam’s that he knew she wasn’t going to be at this meeting”.

The meeting started off with the both Imam’s explaining the purpose of this meeting was to see if there was a way to allow the Chief to come into the prisons in North Carolina. Especially considering that there was already a religious body representing the Moorish Science Temple of America under the leadership of Bro. R Jones–Bey.

The Chief explained that R Jones–Bey’s leadership wasn’t really going into the prisons in North Carolina and that a number of the chaplains have voice complaints that they were not able to get literature nor were they able to get anyone to return many of their phone calls. Both chaplains at the meeting agreed that they have heard the same complaints. The Chief went on to explain that what Jones–Bey’s leadership was teaching, when they did go into the prisons, “wasn’t what the Prophet taught the Moors”.

He gave an example of this by referring to a letter that Bro. C Warner–Bey wrote. Bro. C Warner–Bey (who was also a member of the N.A.A.C.P.) was the previous head of the prison ministry under R Jones–Bey. Bro. Warner-Bey had written a letter to the bureau of prisons stating that the Moors didn’t practice Ramadan, or wear kufis. That the Prophet Noble Drew Ali brought us Islamism which is different from the Islam Prophet Mohammad brought.

The Chief explained to them that since Bro. Warner–Bey’s death, Bro. V Jones–Bey is now the head of the prison ministry, under Bro. R Jones Bey. And that V Jones–Bey sent in a letter stating that Moors did practice Ramadan but that they are not force to do so.

The Chief stated Moors are Moslems and he directed them to the back of the Questionnaire, where it clearly states we derive our power and authority from the Great Koran of Mohammed. He also point to Chapter 45 at the end of its verse 1 of said Koran of the M.S.T. of A.,

Whereas Our Holy and Divine Prophet Noble Drew Ali, does actually declared and explain to us, “That this is the uniting of the Holy Koran of Mecca, for the teaching and instructing all Moorish Americans”.

Then to further make his point he explained that on every Moorish American Nationality Card it states that our Prophet declare us to be Moslems under the Divine Laws of the Holy Koran of Mecca. After pointing out these facts he said “this proves that Warner–Bey and V. Jones–Bey are wrong in what they are stating our Prophet brought us.”

Chaplain Akbar said that they had spoken with Warner–Bey in the past and explained to him that some of the inmates were concern that some Moors wanted to were Kufis and have prayer rugs. That this was causing a problem because if the Moors were allowed to have Kufis, prayer rugs and Ramadan, that other inmates would confuse them as being Muslims.

The Chief said, “That is not my problem” in a very clear voice; he went on to say

“We are Moslem and just because the 34 group (Moors under Bro. R. Jones–Bey-leadership) didn’t want to practice Islam, that didn’t give anyone the right to tell us that we can’t teach what our Holy and Divine Prophet Noble Drew Ali actually brought and originally taught to us. This doesn’t given him or anyone else the right to dictate to who us, who and what we can and cannot practices, simply because the 34 group didn’t want to practice Islam. That didn’t give anyone the right to tell us what we can’t teach and what the Prophet brought”. The Chief Minister included the fact that the 34 group said that the Prophet didn’t tell Moors how to live they lives.

This is why they allow their members to be homosexual; this was a point he made a number of times. Each time he would mention the 34 group and how they didn’t practice Islam or wasn’t following the teaching of the Holy Prophet he would be looking in my direction. Now the Chief knew I was in total agreement in what he was teaching, especially that you can’t call yourself a Moor or a Moslem and be practicing homosexuality.

 But he kept looking in my direction so many times that Chaplain Akbar looked at me and asked “aren’t you a member of the 34 group?”  I said as quickly as I could “I’m with the Prophet!” I also explained to him that I’m in agreement with the Chief. I said to myself, “The Chief got one more time to look at me and say something about the 34 practicing homosexuals; if he does we are going to have some words when this meeting is over.”

 But I realize he was trying to make a point with the Imams. That the 34 Moors can’t speak for the 1928 Moors if the 34 is not living according to the Law. He went on to mention a court case were the Nation of Islam sued the Nation of Islam and that there were two Nations of Islam.

He went on to mention a court case were the Nation of Islam sued the Nation of Islam and that there were two Nations of Islam. All because the newly found Nation felt that under Minister Farrakhan the teachings of Elijah Mohammad had been changed. Both Imams knew of the case and agreed that there were two Nation of Islam groups. They also admitted that they both were members of the Nation of Islam for a number of years before converting to Sunni Muslims.

The Chief proceeded for 2 hours straight, not only did he tell them about the history of the Nation of Islam, but on a number of occasions quoted their former teacher Elijah Mohammed. The Chief told them stories of how he was a gang member in prison and would go to the hole fighting others inmates that wouldn’t allow Sunni Muslims to say Allah was God. That for 40 years they followed a white man until someone came and taught them differently.

He quoted the Quran of Mecca to them, one Sura after another. He point out that the Holy Quran of Mecca doesn’t say Mohammed is the last prophet Allah would send to humanity.

He said in a very firm voice that Allah is not an Arab and neither was he, that he doesn’t have to learn Arabic, dye his beard or wear his paints rolled up as Arabs did in the past to be a Moslem. And that Allah will judge us where we differ. Those Imams just sat there in silence not saying a word. But the one thing the Chief said that did get them to speak was when he quoted their leader Warith Deen Mohammed.

The Chief Minister looked them in the face and said that Warith Deen said, Prophet Muhammed didn’t say you have to pray 5 times and he didn’t say in order to be a Muslim you have to said, Muhammed is Allah’s Messenger. At that point both Imam’s perked up and said that they didn’t agree with the Chief.

That they knew Warith Deen very well and don’t believe he said that. At that point the Chief reached into his bag and pulled out a booklet of a speech Imam Warith Deen gave at The Wisdom University Conference and showed it to him. Imam Akbar admitted that he did have the booklet and had to admit the Chief was correct.

The Chief stated that after all the fighting he did for them, going to the hole and standing up for them, that they now won’t stand up for him?  When all he’s trying to do is invite his people to Islam. And told them a Moslem should want for his brother what he wants for himself.

Shortly after the meeting ended I remember riding home in the car just smiling to myself, because what I just witness was classic. I saw the Chief beat on TWO IMAMS and not once did he yell, swear or get openly angry. He just beat on them with the truth and it was beautiful.

I said to myself that day, “I want to be just like that!” I want to be able to defend my Prophet and what he brought the Moors the same way and with the same passion as I just witness.

 

My Exodus

Why I chosen to remove myself from being under the leadership of R. Jones Bey who is the present head of The Moorish Science Temple of America Inc headquartered in Washington DC. 

The Chief and I continue to talk for months leading up to my going to the Moorish National Conference in Chicago. The more we talked the more I learned things I should have known years ago. During one conversation the Chief mention the Adept Charm. I told him I didn’t wear my Adept Charm and that it’s in a box on the shelf in my closet because I really didn’t know the full meaning of it.

I had a little understanding of it but not enough to wear it in public. I told him how I had asked the Grand Sheik Bro. R Jones–Bey.

To explain the meaning of Adept Charm to me and the only thing he told me was to go look up the word amulet.  I recalled during an Adept Meeting, Bro. R Jones-Bey told a room filled with Sheiks that if we knew what the charm meant we wouldn’t be wearing it in public. That there were people who did know what the charm meant and if they walked up to you and questioned you about it what are you going to say?

 Then he said “especially if it flipped over on the side with the sword and star, you really might get questions then”. I remember sitting there in that meeting listening to Bro. R Jones-Bey and thinking. He knows what it the charm means and knows that we don’t and he’s not going to tell us?

A few days later while on a call with the Chief he told me to go in my closet and get my charm off the shelf, I asked why, and he said in very strong voice “Brother JUST DO WHAT I TELL YOU!!!!”

I remember thinking this is probably the tone he used when first talking to Brother Williams-Bey. So I went to my closet and got my charm and the Chief proceeds to explain to me the meaning of the very Adept Charm that I was given back in 2007, over 4 years ago when I was first made and I Adept. He gave me the answer to the question that I had asked my Grand Sheik but never got an answer to.

He told me I should wear it every day, especially in public. I thanked him for explaining it to me. He went on to give me history about the Temple and things he had learn from Bro. G Cook Bey, who sat with Prophet Noble Drew Ali. He told me the good, the bad and the ugly about what had happen with the Moors, things he was taught by the elders that were with the Holy Prophet. He even told me about a conversation he had with the Prophet’s wife, Sister Peal Ali.

I remember talking to the Chief right before going to the National Convention, and in our conversation the Charter came up. I remember asking him, why does the Charter now said The Moorish Science Temple of America Inc.? But during the time of the Prophet the Charter didn’t have the Inc on it.

 He said because Bro. C Kirkman-Bey changed what the Prophet left. That after the Prophet’s death the Moors even introduces new rules and regulations in1934.This is why he refers to the Grand Body under R Jones-Bey as the 34 group.

I have to admit that even after he told me this and even sent me evidence on everything he was saying, and after all the lessons he was giving me. I still was reluctant to simply believe what he was saying about Bro. Kirkman-Bey. Most of my reluctance was coming from the fact that I just didn’t want to believe that for the past 20 years I had been in the temple, I was being lied to. I just didn’t want to believe that.

I went to the Annual Moorish National Convention in Chicago, which is held the week of September 15-20, 2011. During the convention I ask Sister Warner-Bey (who is considered the Moorish Historian in the 34 group) about the Charter.  I asked about the Inc., why was it on the Charter now but that during the time of the prophet it wasn’t there.

She said that Bro. Kirkman- Bey changed it. That he change the movement to a non-profit organization.  I remember just looking at her in disbelief and totally confused because she said it in such a calm tone. She didn’t seem upset or bothered by what she was saying. I asked her why would he do that and she stated that when I had time I should call her and she could share with me some history. Once again, the Chief was right.

A couple of months later I called Sister Warner-Bey and I ask her to explain to me what she meant by, Bro. Kirkman–Bey changing the charter. She said that Bro. Kirkman–Bey changed the status of the organization from a religious organization to a non-profit organization and that’s why Inc., is on the charter.

Once again I asked her why would he do this. And she said that he needed to keep up with the times. What do you mean he needed to keep up with the times, was my question to her? And she said that the brother did what he felt needed to be done to keep the movement going forward.

 I said to the sister, the Prophet said if I’m not right, the temple is not right and that the lesson tells us that the truth doesn’t change!

She started telling me how Bro. Kirkman –Bey was the Prophet’s “right hand man” and that the Moors wanted him to lead the movement after the Prophet’s death. She went on to tell me how Kirkman–Bey, was made a member of the Supreme Grand Body by the Holy Prophet.

This was proven false based on documents that the Chief had shown me. She even stated that Bro. Kirkman-Bey, was more spiritual than Bro. E. Mealy El, who was appoint the First Supreme Grand Sheik by the Holy Prophet. The hold time she was talking to me, I keep hearing the words of the Prophet; “let me find you where I left you”.

 I knew that my Prophet didn’t leave me in a non-profit organization; he left me in a Divine Religious Movement.  After that call I knew that I could no longer remind were I was.  A few months later I would step down as Grand Sheik of Temple #12 and Governor for the state of North Carolina under Bro. R Jones-Bey.  And then the phone calls began.

 I received a call from Bro. Clendenin Bey, out of New York, who was the former Chairman of M.S.T. of A Inc. under Bro. Jones-Bey.

He called me because his daughter called him to say that I stepped down as Grand Sheik and Governor. And since she was my Assistance Governor, this meant she would have to step up and run the Temple and the State. She called him crying because she wasn’t ready for that responsibility.

 However, it was Bro. Clendenin Bey  who was the former Chairman of Movement and her mother his former wife Sister Gains-Bey, who was the Grand Governor of North Carolina at the time that agreed to make their daughter a Sheikess. They sent her though the Adept Chamber, when they both knew she wasn’t ready.

Bro. Clendenin-Bey wanted to know why I had stepped down. I told him what Sister Warner-Bey had told me and he stated that, he had never heard that before but would look into it.

The next call I received was from Bro. Fuqua-Bey out of Temple# 25 in Detroit,MI. He called because word got to him that I stepped down and he wanted to know why. I told him about my conversation with Sister Warner-Bey; he stated that no one has very been able to show him the difference between corporation and incorporation and what difference it makes concerning the movement or the Charter.

I said that the Prophet didn’t leave us in a non-profit corporation, that we are a Religious Corporation.  He said that all religious corporations have non-profit status. I agreed with him but said that not all non-profits are religious and if we incorporate; we become part of the State and no State can support any Religion. By incorporating in the state we lose our Religious Status.

He stated the Prophet never dissolved the civic part of the movement and so it doesn’t make a difference if the Charter has the Inc on it or not.  He and I never came to an agreement on this point but we did however bid each other peace and ended the call. It was clear to me that the brother was satisfied with what Kirkman-Bey did and that didn’t sit well with me.

The next call I got was from Bro. A. Hopkins-Bey, of Temple#11 in Philadelphia PA. He called stating that he heard some distributing news and wanted to know if it was true. Was I stepping down from my position? I told him yes and I also told him what Sister Warner-Bey had told me.

He said that he had never heard that before and would have to look into it. Bro. Hopkins-Bey and I talked for a while and I express my disappointment with what I had learned. When I asked him about what he knew of Bro. Mealy El not remaining in charge of the movement after the Prophet’s passing.

He stated that the Moors back then were “diametrically opposed to Bro. Mealy El being in charged”.

I said to him, if the Holy Prophet laid his hand on that brother and appointed him and the Moors were diametrically opposed to the Prophet’s choice. Then they were diametrically opposed to Allah, since the Prophet was Divinely prepared. Bro Hopkins-Bey stated “you’re right”.

He tried to tell me how you can only fix a problem from the inside and not the outside and I should stay to help put things back in order. I told him that these present day Moors, under R Jones-Bey, are not going to change.  And that after all these years I was made to believe something was the truth when in fact it was a lie.

I told Bro. Hopkins-Bey I didn’t feel safe in that Grand Body anymore. Again before hanging up the phone he made it clear that he was unaware that Kirkman-Bey changed the status of the movement and that he would look into that.  He did however say that Sister Warner-Bey was incorrect about Bro. Kirkman-Bey being made a member of the Supreme Grand Body by the Prophet. Proving that what the Chief had shown me was correct.

The last call I received was from Bro. N Revels-Bey, out of New York, who was the former Assistance Grand Sheik of the M.S.T of A. Inc. He too called me because he had heard I stepped down and want to know why. I told him the same thing I told everyone else. Bro. Kirkman-Bey changed what the Prophet left.

Once again he also said “Brother that’s news to me and I’m going to look into this”. He tried to explain to me that the movement is still chartered as a religious organization. That in New York where his Temple is, they have filed the paperwork with the state and that is how the temple is registered. I tried to explain to him that a state can’t support a religion! That it’s a direct violation of the federal and state constitution. We didn’t come to an agreement but just like the other brothers I had spoken with, he stated he was going to look into whether Kirkman-Bey had change what the Prophet did.

After a week went by I realize something; I had just told some of the highest ranking officials in the M.S.T. of A. Inc., that what our Prophet left, they no longer had. That the man they give honor to as the First Supreme Grand Advisor and Moderator of the Temple came and change the work of the Prophet.

After the Prophet told us:

 “I brought you everything it takes to save a nation, now take it and safe yourselves”. 

That Kirkman-Bey decided that he needed to undo what the Holy Prophet did. I was hoping I would get a call immediately, telling me that the sister was wrong and here is the proof.  Weeks went by, no call. This told me, that what the sister said was correct. And once again the Chief was correct.

To this day I never got a called back, from Bro. Fuqua-Bey, Bro. Clendenin-Bey, Bro. Hopkins-Bey or Bro. Revels-Bey, which means they knew all along and they are okay with what Bro. Kirkman-Bey did.

When I look back on everything, I think I had to go to that meeting in Concord with the Chief as an unbiased witness. I had to see things just the way I did and exactly from where I was.  Although I went to the meeting with the Chief and was in agreement with what he was saying, I was still the Grand Sheik and Grand Governor under Bro. R Jones –Bey.

 The Chief knew this but never once questioned me about why I was willing to learn from him but following someone else. He never refused taking my calls and on many days he would call me when I didn’t call him. He always treated me as a brother and I will always love and respect him for that.

I shared with the Chief one day, that while I was going through a really tough time in my life I prayed to Allah for help and guidance. I asked Allah to help teach me what I needed to help myself be a better Moslem and a better leader in the Temple. I said to Allah that if I’m going to continue to be the head of His Temple, I needed the proper tools.

I give Praise to Allah for Bro. JL Williams –Bey making that phone call; I truly believe Allah answered my prayers with that beating the Brother receive from Chief. Because without it, who knows when I would have had my first encounter with the Chief Minister Shaykh Ra Saadi El; and when I would have ever leaned the truth.

Bro. Christopher Bennett-Bey known faithfully as Sheik Bro. Alii Ben Bey is presently an active member and officer within The Moorish Science Temple of America-1928 under the leadership of Shaykh Ra Saadi El. 



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71 thoughts on “My Exodus from The Moorish Science Temple of America. Inc

  1. Khalil Ra on said:

    You have truly enlightened me with this info

  2. Islam!
    A very moving account of a Brother request for guidance from Allah. From the look of things he got it.

  3. Lamarr Thompson- Bey Sheik. on said:

    Islam , This is some of same information I RECEIEVED in regards to on how Brother, C.kirkman-Bey Changed things in this movement ..A brother was very shocked after being in The Moorish Science Temple of that same GrandBody 33yrs didn’t know anything about THE SUPREME Grandsheik and Chairman Brother E. Mealy-EL when i did mention it some was like it was a split but my spirit kept telling me it was much deeper then that now this brother have uncover some more information that went a little deeper. Praise Allah for him to share it with us.Peace.

  4. Islam,
    Are you saying that you are the Temple that the Prophet left? I see that your leader uses Shaykh instead of Sheik. I see he calls his group The Moorish Science Temple of America 1928. So those with eyes that can see recognize that you aren’t the Prophet’s temple. I saw a video on youtube that showed that ya’ll stared in 2002.
    Peace.

    • Islam and wow you that because we use the term Shaykh for our top Sheiks then we are wrong wow , Guess we werw suppose to get your ok ! For what we make changes to under the term force to make them wow , we think not, and now claim to have saw someone else youtube vidieo wow whereas they said we starTed what in 2002 sir please tell us more as we were there and we know what was changed in what year to what sir guess now we are suppose to educated those who aren’t a part and a partial of us but then as Sheik Alii Ben Bey said say it all , you are who sir that’s right Mr.Chrisd682003@yahoo.com so and so wow and we are suppose to bow down to your great lack of knowledge, no wisdom at all and your greater lack of understanding the Divine Intention of our Holy Prophet Ali well it leavwe room for us to make a damn fool out of you but we chose not to this day and so we will respect your poor choice of thinking here . now as such you can pat yourself on your back and walk away with a smile …………………..PEACE
      Shaykh Ra Saadi El- The Moorish Mahdi
      P.S.
      BUT CAN YOU SPELL FOOLISH FOR US AS YOU GO !

      • Another question, Where did you get your authority to establish temples? If you came from R.Love El’s temple that means the charter that you have has no power and no authority either. You said they made you something over there, right? But then you admit that they are a 501c3. Like begets like. Now, if you say that you were made something when you were with Braswell-Beys’ group, didn’t you return your credentials? Didn’t they say that you no longer represent them? So, where does your Authority come from?! Oh, I get it. Like your son says, Allah made you an Executive Ruler and Shaykh!?
        A shaykh makes another shaykh so he made you one. Don’t say that you are always one even if you leave an organization. The record shows that Edward Mealy El revoked your adopted Grand Father’s G.Cook-Bey’s titles, credentials and authority. We await your response, Mr. Moorish Mahdi. LOL, ROFL!! hahahahahahahahahaha

      • Islam who is it that is trying to demand a test of us sir,and if you need to know what , what and where and why simply start going back over some of our older posting to find your answer as many a punk has come running wiht that same old dumb and stupid calling . And since sis. Delia Mealy El remove HER HUSBAND FROM OFFICE THAT RIGHT SHE REMOVE BRO. E.MEALY EL AND TOOK OVER WHO THEN ARE YOU FOLLOWING A CROOK HUH! AND SINCE YOU DON’T KNOW WHO WE GOT OUR CHARTER FROM THEN THAT MAKE ALL YOU SAY A HEARSAY SCIENTIST RIGHT AND HEARSAY IS AS GOOD AS NO SAY RIGHT , AND NO WE WERE SOMETHING BEFORE EVEN MET BRASWELL BEY SIR HEWAS MERELY A ADEPT AND SHEIK AND WE WERE A GRAND SHEIK WHILE HE LINGER ON AS A ADEPT AND SHEIK SIR THIS CLEARLY SHOPW US THAT YOU ARE OF THE PRETEND WISE AND VERY FOOLISH SIR AND NNOW YOU ASK US DIDN;T WE RETURN OUR CREDENTIAL SIR THUS YOU REALLY DON’T EVEN KNOW THAT MUCH SIR WHAT CREDENTIAL YOU YOU TALKING ABOUT , OUR ADEPT HOD , OUR SHEIK HOOF, OUR MINISTER PAPER OR WHAT SIR PLEASE EXPALIN YOU DUMB AND STUPID POSTING IN THAT REGARDS SIR!! SIR WE ARE WHAT WE ARE SIR AND YOU ARE NOT SIR , YOU ARE VERY MUCH LIKE AL THE OTHER DAMN FOOL THAT COME RUNNING TRYING T9O SAY THIS AND THAT TO US SIR LIKE THAT MAKE YOU SOMEONE OR THING SIR , YET ALL INA ALL NO ONE RECOGNIZED YOU EVEN AS BEING A FAKE HELL NO ONE REALLY KNOWS OF YOU THUS THE REASON WHY YOU ARE TRYING TO POST TO US SEE IF YOU HAD ANY REAL COMMONLY GOOD SENSE YOU WOULD HAVE RECOGNIZED THE FOLLISHNESS OF YOUR APPEAL, AND YOU PROBABLY LIKE THE OTHER DAMN DUMMIES AND STUPID AS HELL PERSONS ARE ATTEMPTING TO PAT YOURSELF ON THE BACK RIGHT NOW AND ALL WE HAVE DONE IS EXERCISE ANOTHER DEGREE OF THE BEAT DOWN SIR, WEL A FEW EARS BACK WE CAME TO THE CONCLUSION TO USE YOUR SORT AS A SOUNDING BROAD SIR A WAY TO RE-ISSUE OUT THE SAME DAMN BEATING WITH OUT HAVING TO RAISE OUR VOICE SIR , SEE ALL YOU HAVE DONE IS TRY TO REISSUE OUT THE SAME DAMN DUMB AND STUPID AS HELL IDEA AND NOTHING MORE SO WE WILL ALLOW YOU TO MAKE A FUNNY SORT OF NAME FOR YOURSELF SEE AS OTHER ARE WATCHING THIS AND THOSE WHO ALREADY BEN BEAT DOWN ON THESE VERY SAME DUMB AND STUPID TOPIC, ARE SMILING AT YOUR DUMB SELF SEE THERE IS NOT A DROP OF SUCCESS IN THIS DUMB AND STUPID POINTS OF YOUR ALL YOU HAVE DONE IS BUST OPE FORMER LAY OUT DOD-DO AND THIS IS WHAT YOU NOW ARE GETTING CREDIT FOR WASTE OF TIME NOW IF YOU HAD KNOWN WHAT THE HELL YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT AND YOU KNEW US AND HAD SOME SECRET INFORMATION THEN YOU MIGHT HAVE HAD A LITTLE CHANCE OF SAYING AT LEAST SOMETHING NEW BUY NO LIKE ALL THE OTHER LONG LISTING OF DAMN FOOL YOU ACTUALLY PICK THE SAME DUMB AND STUPID STUFF TO TRY AND TALK ABOUT WOW , YOU KNOW ONE DAY THERE IS GOING TO COME A REAL LIVE CHALLENGING MOMENT FOR US A REAL LOVE LIVING PERSON OF A GREAT MOORISH SUBSTANCE AND ABILITY ONE WHO ALREADY HAS A GOODLY EARNED MOORISH NAME AND ENTITLEMENT WHO HAS SOMETHING OF WORTH SAYING AND THEN WE CAN THEN STAND FACE TO FACE WITH SUCH A TRUE MOORISH SUBSTANCE WHOM WE WILL SMILE AND FEEL LIKE HE BEEN ENGAGED IN A MEANTFUL DEBATE AND ARGUMENT BUT WE DRAW THAT UNTIL THE WE WILL SIMPLY STEP OUT AND BEAT DOWN YOU PUNKS AND FAGGOT LIKE WANN-TO-BE PERSONALITY , HELL YOU COME TO A GUN FIGHT WITH A WATER GUN TRYING TO WET UP THE BIG MAN WOW AND ALL WE ARE THROWING AT PUNKS LIKE YOU ARE BOMB, BUT THEN YOU ALL ARE FAR TO STUPID NOT TO FALL VICTIM TO OUR MINEFIELD WHILE HAS LONG BEEN PLACE OUT THERE FOR YOU DAMN DID WE SAY ALL THAT WOW GUESS IN YOUR NEXT TRY TO BECOME FAMOUS, YOU WILL BRING THE GREASE WITH YOU AND BE BEND OVER RIGHT SO THAT WE MAY POINT YOU TO ONE OF THE MANY SATANNIC PLAY GROUND IN YOUR NEAREST CITY HUT …..PEACE AND PLEASE TRY TO DO MUCH BETTER THE NEXT TIME WOW THE SAME OLD SAD STUFF WOW JUSTICE WILL CATCH YOU WAY BEFORE IT CATCH ANY OF THE TRUE AND FAITHFUL SIR FOOL AS A MATTER OF FACT WE SHALL START ADDRESSING YOU AS ABA-DABA-DOO THATS THE NAME WE HAVE GIVEN TO YOU ABA-DABA-DOO FOOL.

  5. Yasmeen Bey on said:

    Allah, Man knows naught by being told……..I was told by the spirit where I had landed was wrong and the reason I too, could never get any answers is because someone was trying to put me back to sleep. As long as ALLAH is leading victory is sure, and ALLAH lead me also away from the falsehood and folly. Praise ALLAH for you brother, for you have confirmed what ALLAH spoke to my heart.

    • I.S.L.A.M. Noble I also would like to extend my graditude for your help some time ago this year I called you for some information for another brother in Temple #21, Bkly, N.Y. ( N. Revels Bey G.S.) and I just wanted to thank you for your brotherly love and help in the matter, because I knew no other person or place to go and as the brother before mentioned Allah directs the spirit…….Peace.
      Shaykh Ra Saadi El , you have given me some insight on this whole matter that has been going around for some time and it seems that we are all guilty of pointing the finger and calling the names. This is not what our Holy Prophet Drew Ali would want us to be doing. We start it in the very temples that he has set up for us to save our selves and what are we during and I speak from experience. We conscious and active Moorish Americans are addressing issues of true “National Identity”in many diverse social and political forums. Borrowing from a Noble that I personaly have confidence in and I will continue following his knowledgable insight on how to do rather that set-up set-back 85yearold arguing about past events and religious provocation. Yes religion is important but being yourself is just as , Our Noble Drew Ali taught us to be ourselves and that alone you become holy, religious,but not pious and holier than the next person Allah is within all we must help to show that…….PEACE

  6. Islam Brother Bennet-Bey may ALLAH bless you to find yourself where you can solve your problems best ,first and foremost and I hope all is well with you at this time. I called you earlier and left a message etc… As a member of Temple #57 and the MSTA inc.( 34 group) I believe not in everything that our leader believes in similar to someone who does not support the President of the U.S. he does “leave the country” etc.. When we stop looking for the flaws in each group and build upon our similarities then we are Nation building . As one who speaks his mind I am very dissapointed at the STATE of all the Moorish organizations because none of them are doing nothing but criticizing each other. Once I can find my inner power and make advancements that improve this Grand body then I can offer something tangible to all MOORS conscious or not,but until then regardless of who we are under if we are not giving our all to uplift us as a whole then all we are doing is moving sideways and not up. I am in Milwaukee ( the only proclaiming moors here that I know of) with my Moorish wife and kids only and our HOME is our Temple. We travel to Lockport to get Science from SIS. D. Warner-Bey!! With that I bid you Peace and Love and I look at you no different whoever you follow! Peace Moor!

  7. Matheno Matthews- El on said:

    Islam,

    In the late 70s, our assistant Grand Sheik was suffering from a serious case of stomach ulcers, confined to his bed, and in terrible pain, the Prophet, yes the Prophet Drew Ali manifested in the bedroom, looked with piercing eyes at this Moor, and he was healed. We both went through the adept chamber and have never looked back. What our Prophet DID and IS DOING now, is NEVER anything to be taken lightly. We can choose to agree, disagree, bicker, obey or disobey, yet I am interested in ONE THING, walking in the divine light of All-Mighty Allah as HE SEES FIT to reveal TO ME ! What others do or did, THEY must and WILL be held accountable for ! We are descendents of Moors, born in America, knowingly or unknowingly, for that reason every step forward toward the true light is a plus . There is but one Temple and one Prophet of that Temple. The Holy Prophet is NOT DEAD, nor is He suffering from dementia, incapacitated or otherwise out of contact ! He yet knows EXACTLY where EVERY member IS ! And He is STILL working by the power given him by Allah to move the National and Divine Movement forward. On this physical plane, there is ALWAYS truth AND Falsehood manifest, in EVERY group, EVERY religion, EVERY nation and yes, in EVERY person. Is EVERY member, sheik, adept etc. not truth and falsehood strangely mixed ? And if so, who did the mixing ? Who gave us no good without an admixture of evil ? And who bears the responsibility of throwing off the evil from my admixture or your admixture ? As far as knowledge, I lay no great claim to none, other than that Allah is all. For those who differ or disagree, that is your right and or perhaps your preference, but he or they that are perfect, correct, and without sin to any degree, whoever you are, that have managed to follow the Prophets laws without the slightest deviation, as well as the public laws of man , who pass each day in the perfect will of Allah, ” stand forth ” that all may know, and in the presence of infinity, just who you are indeed ! I love all you Moors, and will be partial to NONE. We are ALL where we are, with the measure that Allah has determined good unto Himself, if your measure is increased, is cause but for greater praise, and even more humility, lest that which is intended to be a blessing, should then become a curse instead. There is no cause to attack, belittle, or otherwise INJURE any brother or sister that claims Allah and His Prophet as their own. What brother or sister whom Allah has given a suitable portion of light and life divine shall we agree would be better had they no life at all ? Does our knowledge of the necessities of this earthly life exceed the measureless wisdom of the giver of life to all ? I have learned my Moorish family, by suffering and trials, mostly cause by none other than myself, to choose first the eyes of love, the heart of sincerity and the way of peace with men, and peace with Allah, lest I be judged as harshly as I at times have foolishly judged the hearts and intents of others. Finally, I have much confidence in you all, having considered your words of holy zeal, your heartfelt pleas for unity, your wise interpretations of the law, your fellowship one with another, by the hand of our Father-God-Allah, in our tried, tested, and purified love, one for another, we as a people will rise again .

    Peace

  8. Islam very informative seek the truth and you shall find it…peace and love praise Allah

  9. Frank E. Spaulding-Bey, Jr. on said:

    Islam! Needless to say there are definitely many challenges that I see in the Moorish Science Temple of America, Inc (the so-called 34 group). However, when one has truth and information that is irrefutable there is no need to come off in a vulgar posture. The Holy Prophet Noble Drew Ali has stated let not the slightest of harsh tones project from our mouths (paraphrased). May Allah continue to bless everyone that has taken the time to read this very informative essay from the former Grand Governor of NC (34 group) and I further pray Allah that all Moorish-American Moslem through out the nation will begin to have an extremely clear conception of the work that we should be doing collectively to raise ourselves up and to proceed with the uplifting work of fallen humanity precisely the way the Holy Prophet Noble Drew Ali said to do and prescribed for us to do. Peace!

    • Islam as you should have read Sura 2:145 first and what did Sheik Alii say that you deem to be vulgar wow you must have been hit hard by the truth he told ,and this would not be the first time that a agent oF SATAN THE BEAST FELT SUCH A BACK PAIN NOW WOULD IT NOW THAT COMING FROM US WOULD BE DEEM TO BE VULGAR SIR AND WE AREN’T SAYING THAT YOU ARE A AGENT OF THE BEAST ” sATAN” SIR BUT ON THE OTHER HAND WE CAN SAY YOU HAD NO REAL REASON TO STATE OR SAY THAT SHEIK ALII BEN BEY WAS VULGAR SIR AND AS OUR HOLY PROPHET aLI CALL CERTAIN PEOPLE SMELLY CULPRITOR ALLOW SUCH A TERM TOI BE P[OSTED IN OUR MOORISH GUDIE THEN WE WOULD SAY TAKE A SEAT AND SHUT UP AND LEARN THE TRUTH ABOUT OUR HOLY PROPHET ALI SIR THE HOLY PROPHET ALI ALSO SAID DON’T CHANGE HIS TEACHING SIR, PLUS IN ADDITION SIR THE HOLY PROPHET SAID IT IS FAR WORST TO LIE ON ALLAH AND EVEN BRO. R.LOVE EL SAID IS A SIN AND BLASPHEMEY TO TELL LIES AND TALL TALES ON ALLAH AND HIS PROPHET SIR AND WE GUES THAT YOU TOOK OUT THE CHAPTER IN OUR HOLY KORAN ABOUT JOHN THE BAPTIST WHY DID THE KING CUT OF HIS HEAD AND WHY DID THE ROMAN KILL JESUS AND FAR BETER WHY DID HIS OWN PEOPLE TAKE HIM TO ROME SIR HELL THEY CUT OFF THE HEAD OFTHE MODERN DAY JOHN THE BAPTIST DIDNT THEY SO WOW WHY ARE YPU THROWING UP YPOUR MERE OPINION ABOUT OTHER STANDING UP FOR ALLAH AND THE PROPHET ALI ! THE REAL QUESTION IS WHY ARE YOU TRYING TO FIND BAD IN ALL THE GOOD THAT SHEIK ALII STEP FOREWARD AND SAID AND EXPOSED HERE IS SOUND MORE LIKE YOU ARE A HATER OF TRUTH AND ARE FAR MORE CHRISTIANIZED THAN YOU THINK YOU ARE WE ARE MOSLEM AND TURNING OUR FACE FROM THE TRUTH TO A WELL SOFT TOLD LIE WHICH MAKE YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE IS NOT ISLAMISM NOR IS IT OF ANY TRUE RELIGIOUS CREED TO HATE A HAD TOLD TRUTH WHILE FEELING GOOD AND COMFORTABLE LIVING OUR A COMPROMSING LYE AND WHY IS JR AT THE END OF YOUR NAME GUESS WHAT OUR HOLY PROPHET BROUGHT WASN’T GOOD ENOUGH FOR YOU BUT THEN IN THE HOLY QURAN OF MECCA IT SAY THAT WE FOUND OUR FATHERS WORSHIPPING ONE WAY AND WE CHOSE TO GO ANOTHER WAY OK JR, CAN YOU SHOW US WHERE ANYONE HAD jr behind their Holy tribal names of El, Bey or Ali wow……Peace the chief Minister

      • Ivan Dixon-Bey on said:

        Islam! Islam! Islam Moors. Truth is but one. We all are one seeking the Truth that our Prophet Noble Drew Ali left. Not a record is lost for on Allah book of rememberance not a record is lost. In the end the light will be revealed. He left his footprints clearly cut that all may know he our Prophet went that way.As man unfolds his God unfolds. May we all continue on that 3 step ladder. In the end demonstrating man himself the Truth. Remember relation that binds us to love and unity. Islam!!

  10. Frank E. Spaulding-Bey, Jr. on said:

    Islam! I what I deem to be vulgar is the way you come out of your face with expletives. Totally unnecessary when you are suppose to be a Moorish leader and dealing with truth. I was born Frank Emanuel Spaulding, Jr after my father Frank Emanuel Spaulding, Sr. former Mayor of Kingston, Jamaica West Indies and Betting and Gaming/Real Estate Mogul on the Island and abroad. I carry my Jr. to honor my father as the Prophet has instructed that we should honor our parents. Were you born Ra Saadi El my brother and where does the Prophet say that we should alter our birth names other than affixing our El or Bey to our family names? Peace!

    • Islam Mr Jr.

      wow good thing you aren’t Allah huh , but then the sole reason for you posting up your Christianized Marrano ideas are now known to us all your from a foreign island that did battle for to European to run their other wise almost all Asiatic government right! and it was you who came on this site trying to express your own piss poor moral opinion as to what Sheik Alii, Ben Bey said and to date no one has seen the so-called vulgarity of it , Now simply because your father held onto his Englishmen name is no reason to follow suit sir, if you had been far more studious and diligent in your Moorish studies then you would have quickly recognized that you do not place anything after El or Bey except maybe I II III etc. we our forefather never used European sir names at the end of their Holy Names, your name it’s self with jr after it is highly vulgar sir to a real Moorish American Moslems , see in your getting you fell to recognized the actual wisdom of our Holy Prophet Ali declared he said HONOR THY FATHER AND MOTHER HE DID SAY USE THEIR NAME AND WHEN HE ADDRESS THE USE OF NAME SIR HE TOLD ONE BRO F NELSON BEY TO NAME HIS BABY BOY MOHAMMED bey but then he too didn’t understand and so he too name his son Mohammed Nelson Bey sir, AND NOW HERE YOU ARE CLAIMING TO BE WHAT TELL US ALL WHICH SIDE OF THE EUROPEAN BATTLE TO RUN THE Jamaica did your father side on sir .and yes you are right we don;t bit our tongue for a soul sir, and yet we notice how well you avoided OUR DECLARATION OF WHAT OUR HOLY PROPHET ALI EITHER DECLARED OR ALLOW TO BE DECLARED IN HIS NEWS PAPER CALLED THE MOORISH NATIONAL GUIDE SIR THE PART ABOUT THE TERM , THE WORDS, USED IN THE FORM OF BEING WHAT SIR TO YOU WHAT IS BEING CALLED A SMELLY CULPRIT A SMELLY THING SIR IN YOIUR EYE SIGHT , AND NO WE WERE NOT BORN RA SAADI EL SIR , AND WE SHOULD HOLY OUR FATHERS AND MOTHER SIR THUS OUR FATHER BEING NAME EL AND OUR GRAND FATHER BEING ONCE A MEMBER IN THE ORIGINAL M.S.T.OF A. AND THEN WE BEING ADOPTED BY OUR SPIRITUAL GRAND FATHER SAINT G. COOK BEY SIR AND HAVING THEN STUDY WELL THE DOCTRINE AND TEACHING OF OUR HOLY PROPHET ALI FORERUNNER SIR BY THE NAME OF mARCUS M. GARVEY SIR TO WHOM YOU SHOULD KNOW A DAMN LOT ABOUT SAID THIS SIR WE NO LONGER NEED WAIT ON OTHER THE NAME US NOR DID THE HOLY PROPHET ALI EVERY DISAGREE WITH THAT IDEA SIR FOR IF YOU TAKE YOUR HEAD OUT OF ROME SIR THEN YOU WOULD HAVE NOTICE THAT OUR HOLY PROPHET ALI NEVER HYENATED OUR NAME AS BEING DONE NOR DID HE EVERY ADD jR TO ANY NAMES SIR BUT IT IS WITHOUT A DOUBT OR CONTRADICTION SIR WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY AND POWER GIVEN TO US TO NAME OTHER AS WELL AS TO NAME OUR SELF SIR IN DIRECT ALINMENT WITH AL THAT IS HOLY AND DIVINE SIR JUST LIKE JACOB NAME WAS CHANGED WHEN ALLAH CHOSE TO USE HIM AND ABRAHAM SIR AND MANY OTHER SO NOW ARE YOU SAYING US DOING O IS WRONG THEN PROOF IS SCRIPTURALY , AND THE HOLY PROPHET ALI DECLARED THAT WE ARE WHAT OUR ANCIENT FOREFATHER AND MOTHER WERE DIDN’T HE NOT THEN WHEN WAS YOUR FOREFATHER NAME FRANK, DAMN SPAULDING JR. SIR BEFORE THE COMING OF STAN THE ” BEAST SIR SHOW US THAT AND THE HOLY PROPHET ALSO SAID SIR THAT YOU MUST PROCLAIM YOUR NAME AND RELIGIOUS CREED IN THE GOVERNMENT IN WHICH YOU LIVE AN THE NATIONS OF THE EARTH SIR YOU MAY HAVE TRAVEL FROM ONE CORNER OF THIS EARTHLAND CARRYING WITH YOU THE MARKS OF THE BEAST AND NOW YOU STILL WANT TO CLING TO THOSE NAMES THAT WERE GIVEN INS SCORN TO PROPERTY DEHUMANIZED HUMAN BEING THEN FINE WITH US , BUT YOU SHOULD FIX YOUR MOUTH AND TRY TO BUT THAT ON OUR HOLY AND DIVINE PROPHET ALI SIR AND THUS WITH A NEW LIVE STYLE COME A NEW NAME SIR AND WITH A CHANGE OF HEART COME A NEW CONDITION AND WITH THAT CHANGING OF HUMAN CONDITION CAME OUT A NEW MAN AND PEOPLE LIKE YOU WHO ARE OF A MARRANO STATUS SHOULD NEVER TRY AND APPROACH THE FARE STRONGER AND WISER THAN YOU WITH SUCH A WEAK MINDED AND FAINT OF HEART CHALLENGE SIR. YOU SHOULD BE ABOUT TRYING TO GET WITH THE DIVINE INTENTION OFALLAH HOLKY AND DIVINE PROPHET ALI RATRHER THAN SITTING AROUND TRYING TO SAY WWHAT IS VULGAR ACCORDIND TO YOU TELL US ALL SOMETHING AS WE ALSO NOTICE YOU SAID ALL THE THING THAT YOUR FATHER DID, PAND YET YOU HAVEN;T SUBSCRIBE TO ANYTHING THAT YOU HAVE DONE AS A MOORISH AMERICAN MOSLEM AND BY YOU NOT SAYING THAT TELL US THAT YOU ARE SIMPLY A STOOGE INALL THIS A EUROCENTRIC THINKING CHRISTIANIZED ZOMBIE TYPE MOORISH MARRANO SIR WE HAVE A RECORD WITHIN THE WHOLE OFTHIS DIVINE MOVEMENT AND WHAT HAVE YOU DONE SIR WITH THAT EMPOWERING NAME OF JR, SIR WE CAME INTO THE WORLD NOR REALLY KNOWING OUR FATHER , BUT WE DISCOVER BY THE WILL THAT WE ARE NOT MERE OUR FATHER SON BUT THAT WE ARE A SERVANT OF ALLAH, AND AS THE KORANIC LESSON TELL US DON’T YOU THINK THAT YOU TOO CAN DO FAR MORE THAN WHATYOUR FATHER DID SIR WHAT GOVERNMENT ARE YOU TRYING TO RUN AND WHAT EVIL SPIRIT ARE YOU ABOUT CHASING AROUND THE WORLD ALL WECAN SEE HERE IS YOU COMING ON THIS SITE TRYING TO GIVE YOUR DAMN MERE MORAL OPINION IN REGARDS TO WHAT ANOTHER MOORISH AMERICAN DECIDED TO SHARE WITH THE MOORISH COMMUNITY ON A WHOLE AND LIKE YOUR EUROPEAN CHRISTIANIZED IDEA YOU COME RUNNING TRYING TO DEFAME HIS OWN WORD LIKE YOU WANT TO SAY HOW YOU WOULD HAVE SAID IT BUT ARE FAR TO AFRAID WHERE YOU ARE AT TO TALK LOUD , TO-DATE YOU ARE THE ONLY DAMN FOOL WHO VOICE SUCH DUMBEST HERE AND AS STUPID AS YOUR OPINION IS WE ALLOW IT TO BE HEARD NOW THINK ON THAT WE ALLOW YOUR OPINION TO BE HEARD AS WE COULD HAVE SIMPLY DELETED IT OR REFUSE TO PUT IT UP BUT WE DIDN’T AND WHY! WE WANTED THE WHOLE MOORISH WORLD TO SEE IT’S FOOLISHNESS AND HOW CHRISTIANIZED MOST OF YOU IN OTHER GRAND BODIES REALLY ARE GUESS THAT POSTING OF SHEIK ALII BEN BEY WASN’T OF YOUR COMFORTER ZONE RIGHT BUT HELL YOU DIDN’T HAVE TO READ IT NOW DID YOU GO GET BEHIND US SATAN AS WE KNOW THAT YOU ARE AGENT OF THE BEAST HERE, NOW GET BEHIND US SATAN OR AHEAD OF US BUT GET THE GETING WHILE YOU STILL CAN ………………….PEACE THROUGH JUSTICE TO YOU SIR

  11. Frank E. Spaulding-Bey, Jr. on said:

    No, I commented to give honor to the former Grand Governor of NC from the so-called 34 group as you have deemed it for sharing his experience and I express disappointment in your irreverent speech. You need to breath, relax and grow up my friend. Real men let alone “leaders” do not comport themselves the you way do. Whatever accurate information you have becomes blighted in presentation due to your immature delivery.

    • iSLAM AND WOW BY NOW EVERY ONE ELSE WHO IS READING THIS POSTING IS WONDER HOW CAN YOU KEEP PUTTING YOUR DAMN FOOT INTO YOU MOUTH SIR , YOU DIDN’T WRITE A HONORABLE POSTING IN REGARDS TO WHAT SHEIK ALII SAID YOU SAID THAT SOME HOW YOU FOUND HIS POSTING TO BE VULGAR AND WHEN WE ASK YOU TO DEFINED YOU IDEA OF VULGAR BY USING AS OUR EXAMPLE THE CAVAET EMPTOR DEMONSTRATION YOU RAN LIKE A DIRTY DOG WHO . AS IT IS WRITTEN BACK DURING THE VERY LIFE TIME OF OUR HOLY AND DIVINE PROPHET ALI WHICH CLEARLY STATE THAT SOMEONE IS AS BEING A SMELLY CULPRIT AND A EVIL LIKE SPIRIT ETC AND YOU A SOUGHT TO AVOID THIS AND SINCE YOU ARE SO MUCH AGAINST VULGAR AND OUR PISS POOR LEADERSHIP AND YET WE ARE WILLING TO BET THAT YOUR OWN LEADERSHIP IS PRODUCING A COPY OF THIS SMELLY CULPRIT WORD, IDEA ETC AD YET HERE YOU ARE RUNNING OF FAT YOUR MOUTH NOW AS FOR OUR LEADERSHIP WE ARE HERE TRYING TO WIN YOU SORT OVER NOR ARE WE TRYING TO CONVINCE YOU ABOUT ANYTHING AS THERE IS NO COMPLUSION OF ISLAM A ON INFIDEL. THEN YOU ALSO SOUGHT TO AVOID THAT BOASTFUL MEASURE ABOUT YOUR FATHER WHO SIDE WAS HE ON WHEN THOSE TWO EUROPEAN RAN TO RULE JAMAICA AND WHAT IN THE HELL HAVE YOU DONE OF A MOORISH SUBSTANCES WHERE YOU ARE AT AND MORE THAN LIKELY WHERE YOU ARE AT THEY POSSIBLE NOW GOT MOORISH STUDY GROUPS RIGHT AND GUESS WHO STARTED THAT UP WE DID AND GUESS THERE IS PROBABLY A LOT OF OTHER THING WE TEACHES AND BROUGHT TO LIGHT THAT YOU HAVE RIGHT NOW IN YOUR POSSESSION AND REALLY DON’T KNOW THAT WE ARE THE TEACHER OR AUTHOR OF IT THUS WHILE YOUR MOUTH IS SAYING ONE DAMN DUMB AND STUPID AS HELL THING YOUR MIND IS RACING TRYING TO LEARN OUR STUFF THUS IN ALL REALITY WE ARE YOUR DAMN TEACHER SIR NOW THE LAST AND FINAL TRUTH IS THIS YOU ARE PISS POOR INEPT STUDENT WHERE YOU ARE AT WE HAVE SHOWN AND PROVEN THAT TO BE TRUTHFUL SIR AS YOU TRIED TO MISQUOTE AND TEACH ON WHAT OUR HOLY PROPHET ALI BROUGHT SIR AND YOU FAIL GREATLY IN YOUR ATTEMPTED APPLICATION AND YES THERE ARE MANY RIGHT NOW ON THIS PAGE WONDER WHY YOU KEEP OUTING YOUR MOUTH AND SAYING THESE VERY DUMB THING THIS GO TO SHOW US ALL THAT YOU ARE THE ONE UNDER A EMOTIONAL TERM HERE AS WE HURT YOUR LITTLE FEELING DID WE . AND WE ARE GLADE TO HAVE HAD THESE FEW MOMENT TO SHOW AND WHAT NOT DO AND WHERE NOT TO SAY IT ON, AND WHO IS FOLLOWING BEING YOU IF NOTHING ELSE AS YOU GAVE HONOR TO ONE WHO NOW FOLLOW US DEDICATELY THEN THAT SHOW US THE POWER OF THE ONE RIGHT ND HIS WORD COMPEL YOU TO START WRITING UP YOU DUMB AND STUPID STUFF AS YOU TRIED TO SHARE YOUR UNASKED FOR OPINION AND WE DARE TO ALLOW YOU A PLACE TO DO SO WOW AND THUS THE FINAL TRUTH HERE IS THIS WE ARE SUCH A GOOD AND GREAT LEADER THAT WE DARE TO ALLOW YOU A PLACE TO AIR OUT YOUR OWN MORAL PREJUDICES SIR THAT REAL LEADERSHIP AS A REAL MAN HAS NOTHING TO FEAR FROM THE FOOLISH SIR AND OUR FOES ARE SUCH THAT WE FEAR THEM NOT AS ALLAH IS ON OUR SIDE AND WITH ALLAH FORE US WHO THEN CAN BE AGAINST US BUT A DAMN DUMB AND STUPID PERSON SEE HOW WE AVOIDED CALLED YOU DAMN DUMB AND STUPID THERE PEACE THROUGH JUSTICE DON’T GET MAD GET OFF AND BEHIND US SATAN

      P.S YOU ARE JUST A PISS POOR STUDENT WHERE YOU ARE AT SIR, GET A LIFE THAT MIGHT WORK OUT BETTER FOR YOU !!!!!!!!!!!!

  12. Moorman7 on said:

    The Prophet also said not to speak radical or agitated while at home, private or public, against any person or organization.

    • ISLAM AS THIS ONE HAS SIMPLY POP UP RESTATING WHAT HAS ALREADY BEEN STATED SO OBVIOUSLY THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG HERE AS IN THE VERY BEINNING OF OUR OLD MOORISH LITERATURE IS SAY ALL THOSE WHO FAIL TO PROCLAIM THEIR FREE NATIONAL NAME AND STATUS ARE SUBJECT TO ALL INFERIOR NAME, ABUSES AND MISTREATMENT THAT THE TRUE CITIZEN ARE PREPARED TO THROW AT THEM THUS ONCE AGAIN THESE PRETEND WISE CANNOT HELP BUT STEP FORWARD AND NOW THE DIFFERENT BETWEEN THE PRETEND WISE THEY SIT AROUND IN THEIR PRETEND CIRCLE OF WISDOM SPEAKING OUT BOTH OUR OF TURN AND OUT OF THE SIDES OF THEIR NEXT NOW THIS IS ALL WELL AND GOOD IN THEIR LITTLE CIRCLE OF PRETEND WISE ONE THEY DO SPEAK OFTEN AND A LOT .

      YET IN THE CIRCLE OF THE TRULY WISE THEY SPEAK WHEN SPOKEN TO AND USUALLY THEY DO NOT SPEAK UNWISELY NOR DO THEY SPEAK A LOT, ANDWHEN THEY DO SPEAK THEY MAKE IT PLAIN SO THAT EVEN THE FOOLISH CAN GAING SOME THING FROM THEIR WORDS OF WISDOM AND WE WONDER DOES THIS PRETEND WISE PERSON WHOP CAME HERE SAYING THE SAME THING THAT mR jR SAID THAT WAS VULGAR OR IS HE SAYING WHAT WE SAID IS VULGAR OF PROFANE WOW IN ANY CASES WHY DIDN’T HE ALSO ADDRES THE QUESTION ABOUT SMELY CULPRIT WOW THEY ARE AGREE TO ONE THING AND THEY BOTH SEEK TO AVOID THE OTHER THING WOW , ANYWAY WE ALLOW THIS POSTING TOGO ON SIMPLY TO MAKE A POINT AGAIN AS WE ARE WILLING TO BET THAT THE SAYER OF THIS IS FARE REMOVE FROM NOW SAYING ANY OF THE STUFF HE DECLARED THAT THE HOLY prophet ALI SAID NOT TO DO , AND SO THIS WILL BE THE LAST SORT OF THIS SORT OF POSTING WE SHALL ALLOW AS NO ONE HAS THE RIGHT TO FORCE A SECOND AND 1 BILLION THE PROPHET ALI SAID THIS AND THEY ALL ALONG ARE AVOIDING THE SAME DAMN QUESTION PUT FORTH EITHER IT ALL THE POSTING BEING ADDRESS OR IT SHALL BE NONE OF IT BEING ADDRESS ED……………..PEACE

  13. Bro. Johnson-Bey on said:

    ISLAMISM!!! I wish I had someone to guide me right. I will be resigning my post from the 34 group; i was told about 10 other members including officers will be leaving the 34 group. I trust that the Chief Minister will find favor on us to allow us to become students of him and members of the Temple. Praise Allah for the Bro. Bennett-Bey being able to ask for guidance and receive it. Do know you have more then half of the membership including officers who fell the same way; shame on Bro. Hopkins-Bey, Bro. Clendenin-Bey, Bro. N Revels-Bey and most of ALL Bro. R. Jones-Bey the others who have been holding fast to a OUT RIGHT LIE!! and lending the innocence astray. It is noneffective, weak, cowardly leadership of the (34 group) that has cause and continues to cause much division. I like to see more enlightenment from Bro, Bennett Bey who would thought that a mere posting would cause such a nation wide affect on the whole of the MSTA!!. Thank You!! and much Peace Moors and Continue to be the light for others

    • Truth Tellers!! on said:

      Islam Moor! Our Doors are always open to anyone who wish to learn Islam as thought by our so beloved Prophet!! Just Give us a call anytime at 888.361-2499. Peace & Love

  14. Sharon Gillard on said:

    Amazing how this one Brother openly shares his
    personal experience and is utterly thrown into a den of snakes by those who where his former associate members. Why not share in his happiness of now knowing the truth. No where did he disrespect anyone within his post; i embraced the truth and sincerity of this article. May others find the courage to change their condition for the better.

    I’m not a Moorish American; however what I read speaks universally.

    Thank you for sharing.

  15. Truth Tellers!! on said:

    I SHARE THESE WORDS OF MY BROTHER Abba Lord ! Islam. Just read this over again with a clear mind. I def give props to Ra Saadi El even though none of the old Moors, including himself and his various offspring in the form of children and former students, like me, I love and demand not love in return. I give him props because at least he is out there fighting for the Prophet in the public by demonstrating where ever whether I agree with all of his teachings or not (I actually disagree with a some of what he teaches).

    I see where the confusion is at now on what Kirkman-Bey and those who came after him had people believe what that they changed something. What people believe, is exactly what that fraction wanted them to believe. Truth is one, doubt is of thine own raising. I praise Allah I have been lead in the right direction by his Divine Guidance and the Holy wisdom of his Prophet Noble Drew Ali. ~ Abba Lord ~ https://msta1928.wordpress.com/2012/06/26/my-exodus-from-the-moorish-science-temple-of-america-inc/#more-501raise — with Mecca El Bey, Heru-Supreme El, Kat Wright and 25 others. (a post from Facebook I felt it needed to be seen by the people who authorized the post in the first place)

  16. Matheno Matthews- El on said:

    Moors, The Holy Prophet is reported to have said that the ” wheels of industry ” would be stopped, and when they started up again it would be in ” the Asiatics favor “, or something to that extent . Recently such an event has pretty much occurred over the last 2-4 years, and the world economy teetered on the verge of collapse. Look around Moors, the glass is more than half full, it’s actually overflowing ! ” One day you will look up and see turbans and fezzes everywhere “, look around, we will not, neither is it in the realm of human possibility, for all to see things alike. Yet, the Moorish hordes increase. We once fed the world, we must feed the world again. When the time arrives, the Mother eagle removes the soft, plush, comfortable materials from the inside of the nest, the young ones are exposed to the thorns, unable to find comfort or rest, they spread their wings, and fly. There is an ever increasing need for doctors, lawyers, diplomats, professionals of many kinds, humanity in this era of time is in dire need of real, capable and effective leadership. Governments, banks, businesses, and various once world dominating corporate entities have failed and failed miserably. Our time has come, the doors are open and the possibilities are unlimited. Most of our unconscious brothers and sisters are yet suffering the effects on inferiority complexes and afraid to SUCCEED, while we have been given the very keys to civilization. Perhaps the best way to settle our differences , is to set them aside long enough to accomplish something that will bring honor to the Prophet, glory to Allah, and much needed help to the downtrodden around us, even around the world. You Moors are intelligent, capable and informed, I refuse to accept that any of you are afraid to dare and do wondrous things. Yes, there are real points of dispute and legitimate arguments, we may debate these things for fifty years, proving nothing more than the truth that ” he that neglecth his present concerns to revolve how he will behave when greater, feedeth himself with wind, while his bread is eaten by another “. While we focus our energies on unprofitable discourse, millions of people, unqualified, arrogant and disingenuous, continue to live in the luxury and abundance, that our forefathers prepared for us. We are not told to beg or ask for a seat at the table of nations, but to stand up, step forth, and ” take your place in the affairs of men “. Just considering the Moors posting in forums such as this, you belong in the places where such fiery spirits, sincere hearts and illuminated minds are truly lacking. We can take the reins of world leadership, just get up out of our comfort zones and try ! You Moors can accomplish what you will and nothing you can say will cause me to stop believing that you will !

    • Islam..Bro Matheno Matthews- El your posting falls very short in addressing the real issue. No good rather lets say blessing will come when a curse is present. The real solution is to address the real issue; its not compromising the truth just for the sake of getting along. Your words reflect the nature to say the Hell with the Truth and what is right lets forget the pass and wrong doing of others simply for the sake of getting along. Nothing will nor can be successful in following your rule of thought. You missed the entire message; you overlook the true intent of why the Brother written his experiences in living a lie ( out right lie) to share with the world. You sprinkle a quote here and there to give some sough of self righteous tone to your delivery while all along not addressing the real issue of a real solution. Covering your eyes will not make the problem go away nor will in cause others to not see the truth as you do. Even you must admit that your own words fall short of ever coming true as it has not worked for you and those who follow the same measure as you. At lest the Brother made a bold and darning move to correct the problem by being the example that you do not have to continue to accept living a lie that has and continues to be proven unproductive.

      Maybe you should re-read the posting along with the many comments; maybe you will then have a better understanding; and perhaps being to question with logic your present condition.

      PS. As the Chief Minister has stated; Once you learn the True History of the Real problem then you will discover that the problem begun with the original degree of compromising with the satanic forces which has allowed the evil of rebellion to grow with force within the MSTA Movement. The MSTA is not a social nor political organization The Prophet Drew Ali stated “That while our issues are social and economical in a profound sense the problem are both moral and religious so said our Prophet. As the Prophet had also stated that if something is going wrong; and the head of the Temple knows it going on and dose nothing to stop it it is because he is in on what is going wrong; and I your Prophet don’t OK dirty works. Any single act of compromising is ok-ing dirty works. Compromising simply allows evil to grown as it will chock off your choice followers from growing. We refuse to be that BIG bird with his head in the grown and his ass in the air.

      Peace.

      • RW. Smith-El on said:

        Islam Moor, I have a incident I want talk about that I had with MSTA Inc Temple #34,with so-called Assistant Gr
        Bey who at that time of the incident a few weeks agocalled the police on me for pointing out that Chapter 47 verse 7 in the circle 7 koran that this land North America is Amexem, North,Central,South America and its adjoining Islands is Northwest Africa Al- Moroc, Morocco and the Uited States oest Africa Northgate.He totally disrespected me to the uttermost.I he e lest thtel run temple and shared my experience with G.S.Taj Tarik Bey and Sister R.V. Bey and the Moors from Asbury,Nj republic MSTA Temple # 10 what had happened dinin-Bey. This all of that Kirkman-Bey branch needs to either correct what Kirkman-Bey did by changing what ProphetDrew Ali set up or turn in all their turbans and fezzez and go back to the the state that the Prophet found them. I spent 2,or 3 months attending temple 34 and although Sister E. German- Bey is a sweet sweet woman, she did put Cleninin ey in check when he was clearly teag mis information about the above said topic at their so-called Sunday school Q A class . I am in transition and going to join MSTA Temple #10 in Asbury Park, Nj republic . Now this is a problem because to my knowledgetheir is no concious active Temples in New York City area. There is active, conscious Moors that meet in rlem on 125th street @ the Black National Theatre . I am pleased to hear that I am not alone with this issues with Kirkman-Bey branch …. Co- In-Tel is how I describe these unconscious Moors.Holla at me, Peace R.W. Smith-El

      • Archival palladium on said:

        Islam Mo ! Didn’t know this comment of yours was here ! Peace Moor ! Now you know that you do not know us like that ! But we do not argue brother, we do not debate, period !

        If we can not fellowship according to love, truth, peace, freedom, and justice, then we cannot fellowship, period. We will love and respect all Moorish Americans, including you and your group my brother, but we will not condescend to meanness toward you. Perhaps in the future we may plumb the depths of the circle seven, talk and walk in the great light of Ali, but argue and debate, tear at each other like self hating unconscious Asiatics, NO, NEVER ! Peace Mo ! There will be nothing more to talk about !

      • Islam thank you for your comment Peace

      • T. Matheno Matthews El on said:

        Whhhhhooooaaaaaaa!!!!!!! Islam Brother Moor ! Now brother you know it’s not strange don’t you ! It took almost two years for me to run across this , better late than never I guess . Moor, what are you talking about ??? I have never met you , i did not see your name , you do not know me , so how do you know what has worked for me I would like to know ????? How you know what I know and what I do not know would be enlightening to me . I have traveled with the Prophet over 38 years and know who I am and who my Father God Allah is , neither have led me to attack people that I do not know or people that I do know , but to higher heights and deeper depths of Love . My wife and I have raised 4 children , have been married over 30 years , put two of our kids through college and all starting with NOTHING but the clothes on our backs .

        Some things cannot be told in words , but MO ! , from this plane of manifest to planes UN-manifest, this law has helped me through some trials, buffetings and woes of many kinds. I know what I have been through over half a hundred years for myself !
        I’ve been through that conflict that cannot be told in words and the Prophets Law helped me every step of the way . Allah blessed me every step of the way and is still blessing me . Perhaps it has not worked for some you know , but brother it has more than worked for me .

        Problem ? A problem for some is never a problem for all .

        We just get so involved with pulling other peoples weeds that we begin to see ourselves as Allah”s weed pullers , while our gardens are overgrown with undesirable fruit . Brother , I’ve noticed the attacks and infighting , the bickering and the out right hate of Moor to Moor, my approach is to not do that . The principles of the Negro , Black , Colored are the same as those that the lower-self breeds , hatred , slander , lewdness , murders , theft , and Mo , everything that harms . That is everything or anything that hurts a brother or sister in word thought or deed . We leave those principles behind in the world of darkness and follow our Prophet into the marvelous light, we cannot bring those thoughts or ways of treating people along the path with us .

        Not having that much interaction with the Moorish American Community during the explosion of the internet , I missed the part where brothers began to attack each other like they often do now . There were different groups of Moorish Americans in the 70s and 80s , even a few Court cases , but i don’t remember Moors being unable to fellowship . I was raised by a Moor that came out of the Institutions and spent time helping Moors in various institutions , those Brothers were powerful and put the knowledge to work . Some were powerful in the Courts , they went , they won , the Europeans recognized and respected. As a matter of fact , many brothers use to get put out of jail for having too much influence .

        We had a branch temple under Brother R. Love El , the Assistant Grand Sheik and I went into the AC of the MST of A with those Moors , they may not meet the approval of some , but I know what I know and I know what Allah allows me to know and No one will see the light, walk in the light or ever be the light without Love . period !

        Now i I want nothing to do with getting twisted over something I cannot change or even try to take Allah’s place as the Judge , Mo , if I can help any Moorish American or fellowship in love , fine , but I’ve been lost in a world of anger , confusion and darkness before in my youth . Allah brought me out of it and I’m not going back in it , i do not hate and will not hate anyone .

        The Holy Prophet said ” Allah is leading on ” And that will never change , not you , me , or any adept , official , head or tail. Allah is leading on . I know He is leading me and where HE leads me I will follow . He leads me into peace and not confusion . This world is truth and falsehood strangely mixed and so is man , every man . Allah alone is perfect , Holy and Transcendent . I can’t tell it all , but I hope you understand why and where I’m focused . If I can help you Mo , no problem , we can keep the Holy Covenant if you would like too .

        Peace

        ” That they may learn to love instead of to hate ” The Holy Prophet

        Noble Drew Ali

      • Islam
        You clearly did not read to have a understanding of what was said. Your comment was approved although foolish.
        Peace

  17. Matheno Matthews- El on said:

    Imagine this, ” …those that love Jesus, and desire to know ….. “.

    An interesting word is “know”, it readily implies an actual first hand experience of a particular phenomena, process or event, man, being “what he knows”. In some religious, philosophical material, there is reference to man as, having arrived,

    There is more than a little hostility in some “Moorish” circles toward Christianity, and especially toward those that are called and identified as “Christians”. Should this be so ? We have the very words of the “god-man of today”, the Noble Prophet, Drew Ali”, … these secret lessons are for ALL of those who love Jesus, and desire to know about his life works and teachings”.

    Understanding that we have endured a psychological deprivation and attack of unprecedented, historical proportions, unequaled in it’s complete and utter destabilization , of what would otherwise be a nation, living , breathing and existing within the civil and corporate bounds of a nation, and continuing such subterfuge even unto this present period, in the which all doors to opportunity have opened simultaneously. We revisit the question of “Jesus”, and what it is that we shall do with him.

    The Holy Prophet exclaimed that, “Jesus himself was of the true blood of the ancient Canaanites and Moabites and the inhabitants of Africa.” Shattering a historical myth, bringing a long hidden and distorted truth to light.

    Perhaps the distorted image of ” Jesus”, that we have struggled with, that being of a ” blond haired, blue eyed’ Caucasian” depletion, our Asiatic revulsion to such an adverse imagine, if only in the basic sense, that it is quite contrary to ourselves, and naturally so where such a false image is most detestable , in that we are thereby robbed and devoid of self confidence, self esteem , and a positive self image, all that is necessary to survive, not to mention thrive on this plane of things.

    Subsequently, we as a people have been for the most part held to positions of subservience, here in America. Psychologically devastated and defeated, by that particular false image and all that it entailed. If Jesus is white and we are black, you do the math !

    The simple solution, let us resolve to accept that perhaps, encoded in the genetic DNA, in the soul life of every “Asiatic”, there is a measurable, resident ” love of Jesus”, being recognized by some inherent nature, incarnate within the seminal truth, that,” there is no one who is is able to change man from the descendant nature of his forefathers unless his power extends beyond the great universal Creator Allah Himself”.

    Let every person’s understanding unfold, according as his or her God sees fit.
    We enter again into ” a new era of time “, where we each become our brother’s and our sister’s keepers, not merely for ourselves but ” for the sake of humanity “.

    Humanity will again arise, Atlantis will rise, when and as the Moors rise to the occasion.

  18. RONALD C. COOLEY-EL on said:

    bro. bey i agree with all you have said, but who are we to judge how or what a moors sex life is? no we do not condone homosexual acts, yet we can not say because one is a homosexual he can not be moorish or practice islam? if we do this then we are not practicing the divine principles our holy prophet noble drew ALI brought to to us.

    • Islam….
      So when Allah destroyed full population of people who were homosexual and other hellish things ……. Your sayings that Allah did (do) not show any love?………From your posting one its states your leadership R.Jones-Bey supports homosexual in his Grand Body…..that you and those who have been placed to teach you supports homosexuals. Maybe if you was taught and practice REAL Islam you would know that homosexuals can not be Moslem ….

      Peace

  19. Isha Davis-El on said:

    All Praise to Allah , Most Gracious , Most Merciful. I give Honor to Allah’s Holy and Divine Prophet Noble Drew Ali .
    Islamism!

    Anyone who has studied the M.H. K , Constitution and By-Laws and Additional Laws with attachments knows that the Prophet Noble Drew Ali is a Present Living Demonstration and the Headquarters of the Moorish Science Temple of America is not located in Washington D.C. Rest assure my brother if you have and are living a clean and Moor life, in due time you will meet with the Moors on the High Road who Honor thy Father and thy Mother that thy days may be long upon the earth land which the Lord thy God Allah hath given thee. For there is work for all to do in the M.S.T.of A. The primary concern is with the Moors (those who has proclaimed to be Moorish Americans; the fallen Angels) who are worst off than the so-called African Americans theses days , the negro problem is being solved only as it can and that is through the M.S.T. of A. So hold On my brother for many are called and a few are chosen! Islam, Islam, Islamism!
    peace and Love,
    sister of humanity

  20. aset ba hotep on said:

    I.S.L.A.M ( I Self Law Am Master), and Allah (she). We as Moors were always tolerant of peoples religious practice as long as it didn’t conflict with reasoning and others right to practice theirs. we must be about the divine movement Sheik Shari Abdul Ali (Nobel Drew Ali), came given to uplift broken humanity (she), without mother in her right mind and rightful position, nothings going to work. she is the star gate that we all come through and it’s she that can bring those in that will change this world that is spinning out of control. we must learn to come together and the truth must be told. go out and tell the people who they are, this isn’t a private club, it’s our birthright, and we need numbers. Peace And Love to you all.

  21. This is some sad stuff. No one can change a persons national descent. You are Moorish american by birth. It is so sad that Brothers are so caught up on earthly titles they forget their forefather divine creed of “ONENESS” Here we as a People are suffering in all ways of not knowing our forefathers lesseons and we have Brothers concerned with something that happened years ago. OK if you want to be super duper Grand Sheik.. Supreme Person etc. You still a human being guess what Everyone knows what hate and the lower self look like.

  22. Brother K.Wilkins-Bey on said:

    Islam Moorish-Americans,Moors,Moslems.I just would like to know wath happing to the,M.S.T.of.A. the way the Prophet had it.

  23. Jamon Hopper on said:

    Please send me any info to help me find me and truth

  24. Bro. Q. Hasim Bey on said:

    ISLAM! After reading Bro C. Bennett-Bey’s memoir,It answered alot of questions I had but never wished to ask. I want to commend him on his full transparency and timeline of detailed events. It was great to see my fellow Moors band together for the sake of bettering humanity under the MSTA fellowship. Lastly I’d like to commend Chief Minister Ra Saadi El for demonstrating true leadership through providing powerful facts vs undisciplined emotions. LTPFJ~

  25. Sheik Darnell Albert-EL D.M. on said:

    I been a Member of Jones-Bey Temple and I was taught by Bro R.Love-EL, And Bro T Foster-EL, Bro R Paige-El. I was introduced to The Moorish Science Temple of America by R German Bey and I am still a member of that temple. So much knowledge of our ancient forefathers is not being taught it is pitiful. I don’t preport of a superior understanding I just study SELF and the science of Selfology. So since R german-Bey was annointed by the Prophet as an Adept he had the true adept teachings from our ancient forefathers and the true meaning of know thyself. If one only knew the Kemitic Tree of life, Coming forth by day, Our Ancient forefathers divine creed and the true meaning and understanding of the 5 point star. One needs to study not bicker.

  26. Willie Jackson-EL (former 34) on said:

    Islam, I have for some while had my questions about who was to continue the Prophet’s teaching to us. Who was the one HE appointed to lead us? I was incarcerated 02-09. During which, I had become a Grand Sheik myself. I font it hard to get the str8 answer to the above question. I always wondered what happened. The night the Prophet returned to Allah after his mission. None of the elder brothers could agree and I font this strange. But as a faithful 34, I went with what I had. After I got out in 09, I wanted to get in touch with my nearest Branch Temple, which would have been in Charlotte. I was halted by a few reasons. 1)I wasn’t sure what I was in for with “Outside Temples.” 2) I lost ALL my material in a fire. Nationality Card…my Circle7…Branch Temple Laws…By-Laws…etc. I wasn’t too sure how to go about getting these things back, since when I was on the “Inside,” it was so hard to get things in, I felt it would be even harder out here. Many phone calls were ‘t answered, so I gave up. Gave up retrieving my lost items and joining a Temple out here. I would love to learn more about the “RIGHT WAY” the Moors are suppose to conduct themselves, according to the Prophet. Even as a Grand Sheik, I felt totally lost. I did and still do believe in the Moorish Movement. I still have a lot to learn but am willing from the “RIGHT TEACHER.” If u are of the 28, I’d like to hear from you. Contact me at (336) 745-7839.

    Islam.

  27. Islam C. Bennett Bey,

    The Holy Prophet taught the Moorish-American Moslem,s in the MHK , pg 50 Chapter HOLY INSTRUCTIONS FROM THE PROPHET…INSTABILITY OF MAN verse 17, it states “The heart of man cannot attend at once to too many things.” If your heart is truly where you profess it is, then the public is not where you would be airing out your disagreements. This is not doing as the Holy Prophet instructed when he states, “Protect I the Prophet and the Temple!” Ask yourself have you done just that.

    • Islam, and wow here come another pretended wise trying to publically educate another Moorish Leader with his own foolish design.as in his very own declarating is he not also violating the same measurement in whichh e supposely sought to prevent? but then clearly go to show us all that what we teach here is right exact and sound, as we teach that while reading is very fundamenal and it is just that as there is no proof that the reader actually and literally understand what the hell they are saying at the same time that they are reading what has been writ .

      But then on the other hand if he could read and did read the actual third warning of our Holy Prophet Ali warning with some god given or simply human acknowledgement then he was have recognized the very first fault in his so called declare at or statement the fact that Our Holy Prophet Ali declared that a real Moorish American Moslem wouldn’t fear standing up for him behind closed doors or in the public standing before a huge open enemy of Allah and the foes of man that he wouldn’t fear a thing.

      and does this particular pone call someone else his national leader and what has his national leader did to bring unity into view or is his leader one of the many fake and bootleg ones or is his leader one who is continuing the already foolish division started up[ way before any of us were born , whta has he even done of Great Moorish substance as Our Holy Prophet Ali declared that we stand together not by lip service but acts. works and deed, and yet one of the real meaning behind being a Moslem who which common men referr to as Jihad is obeying and following the following Divine Instruction that is as thus;

      1-A real Moslem remove evil from his community by use of his hand in a forceful way, if possible !

      2- A Real Moslem will speaking loudly out publically against evil and evil doer !

      3- A real Moslem if he dare not do any of the above then he will lay and plan of how to remove such a evil from His Ummah [ community}

      Now Punks AND Faggot like individual and group will generally speak behind the back of those whom they publcially fear to speak about and use the clever idea of Satan to say O’ this Jesus like man is speaking publically out against me thus you all should turn your head from him OR COVER YOUR EAR WHENT HIS JESUS LIKE MAN SPEAK THE TRUTH TO YOU ALL , SUCH A TEACHING OF satan is design to get around truth teller and yet make living breathing hypocrite out of other people in the Noble Quran of Mecca such men who speak against another man behind his back are called flesh eater Believe us not simply start reading your Noble Quran for real and then maybe you will begin to start practicing the true Gospel of Islamism .

      GUESS THIS LESSON CAME OUT FOR FREE AND ALL WHO KNOW THE TRUTH WHICH WE SPEAK KNOW WE SPEAK, TEACH AND ARE PREACHING THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH AND THEN FOR THE UNBELIEVER GO READ WHERE JESUS SAID THAT NO WISE MAN UT A FLAME UNDER A BRUSH AS NO BRUSH CAN HIDE THE FLAMING TRUTH WHICH SHEIK ALII BEN BEY ORIGINALLY SPOKE SO WHY IS THIS ONE FEARING A TRUE TELLER UNLESS HE IS NOT , AND EVEN GOOD CHRISTIAN WILL SEE THE WHILE TRUTH AND SCRIPTURAL WISDOM OF OUR PUBLIC SPOKEN WORDS OF TRUTH .Peace. Love and still Praising ALLAH AND HONORING OUR HOLY PROPHET ALI BY OUR ACTS. WORKS AND DEED BY NIGHT AND BY DAY HOW ABOUT YOU???????????????????????

      3-

      • Who is he that demands a test? A true believer that has elevated to the level of faith in life knows that the Gentiles, Jinns and their European cohorts are those in question. As I continue to ascend to fruition, I will remember the lessons of inconstancy and instability of man. Continue searching through your many ideals dirty moor…..perhaps you will unfold into the knowledge of ALLAH! Peace.

    • Islam, and wow here come another pretended wise trying to publically educate another Moorish Leader with his own foolish design.as in his very own declarating is he not also violating the same measurement in whichh e supposely sought to prevent? but then clearly go to show us all that what we teach here is right exact and sound, as we teach that while reading is very fundamenal and it is just that as there is no proof that the reader actually and literally understand what the hell they are saying at the same time that they are reading what has been writ .

      But then on the other hand if he could read and did read the actual third warning of our Holy Prophet Ali warning with some god given or simply human acknowledgement then he was have recognized the very first fault in his so called declare at or statement the fact that Our Holy Prophet Ali declared that a real Moorish American Moslem wouldn’t fear standing up for him behind closed doors or in the public standing before a huge open enemy of Allah and the foes of man that he wouldn’t fear a thing.

      and does this particular pone call someone else his national leader and what has his national leader did to bring unity into view or is his leader one of the many fake and bootleg ones or is his leader one who is continuing the already foolish division started up[ way before any of us were born , whta has he even done of Great Moorish substance as Our Holy Prophet Ali declared that we stand together not by lip service but acts. works and deed, and yet one of the real meaning behind being a Moslem who which common men referr to as Jihad is obeying and following the following Divine Instruction that is as thus;

      1-A real Moslem remove evil from his community by use of his hand in a forceful way, if possible !

      2- A Real Moslem will speaking loudly out publically against evil and evil doer !

      3- A real Moslem if he dare not do any of the above then he will lay and plan of how to remove such a evil from His Ummah [ community}

      Now Punks AND Faggot like individual and group will generally speak behind the back of those whom they publcially fear to speak about and use the clever idea of Satan to say O’ this Jesus like man is speaking publically out against me thus you all should turn your head from him OR COVER YOUR EAR WHENT HIS JESUS LIKE MAN SPEAK THE TRUTH TO YOU ALL , SUCH A TEACHING OF satan is design to get around truth teller and yet make living breathing hypocrite out of other people in the Noble Quran of Mecca such men who speak against another man behind his back are called flesh eater Believe us not simply start reading your Noble Quran for real and then maybe you will begin to start practicing the true Gospel of Islamism .

      GUESS THIS LESSON CAME OUT FOR FREE AND ALL WHO KNOW THE TRUTH WHICH WE SPEAK KNOW WE SPEAK, TEACH AND ARE PREACHING THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH AND THEN FOR THE UNBELIEVER GO READ WHERE JESUS SAID THAT NO WISE MAN UT A FLAME UNDER A BRUSH AS NO BRUSH CAN HIDE THE FLAMING TRUTH WHICH SHEIK ALII BEN BEY ORIGINALLY SPOKE SO WHY IS THIS ONE FEARING A TRUE TELLER UNLESS HE IS NOT , AND EVEN GOOD CHRISTIAN WILL SEE THE WHILE TRUTH AND SCRIPTURAL WISDOM OF OUR PUBLIC SPOKEN WORDS OF TRUTH .Peace. Love and still Praising ALLAH AND HONORING OUR HOLY PROPHET ALI BY OUR ACTS. WORKS AND DEED BY NIGHT AND BY DAY HOW ABOUT YOU???????????????????????

      Your Brother-man in the True Gospel of Islamism
      Shaykh Ra Saadi El-the Moorish Mahdi

      3-

      • ISLAM IS THE LAW AND THE LAW WILL LIVE! You have obviously chosen what teachings that are acceptable to your carnal nature. A man of wisdom does not endanger himself for a fool, so I will step aside because ALLAH has a fire that will become very acquainted with your flesh. If you are as studious as you claim, then you would know what the Holy Quran Mecca teaches about the mischief-maker and wrongdoer.
        I will not be tempted to practice teachings of the lower self with you, because I am a descendant of the founders of the Holy City of Mecca and I practice the principles of the higher self as Allah ordained as a way of life for Moslems.

        Peace.

        Brother M. Williams-Bey

      • Islam as usual those who try and express their so-called wisdom about another person statement and declaration , are usually trying to expose their own ignorances about this and that , and so we are able to quickly recognized those person who want to say Oh that they said this or that about this person statement or that persona statement bases far more upon what they think abouT that particular declaration or statement but all and all what they are really trying to do is talk loud about something rahtner than listen to what has actually been said or done. these are they who seek to air out their own moral prejudices as no one else is really willing to listen to what they think and generally speaking where they are at they are no bodies wannbes’s but never really been anything of good nor Moorish substances at all . Thus they try harder to get notice than they should thus is it with this particular nobody trying to enter the world of somebodies and now he is trying to talk at the somebodies etc.

        Anyway we are not mad at them as they too serve a purposes that of being sounding broad of the upright and rigthteousness Peace

  28. no need on said:

    Just when I was thinking of needing to become a member of M.T.A… This article (although, I am honored to know the omniversal forces, provided an answer to my question to why M.T.A was incorporated) and bickering amongst members has definately detoured me.

    • Islam as you now claim that you find no need to join the M.S.T.of A. Bases on the fact that we like all other Nations have internal debates and argument, then we humbly suggest that you join a Tribe ,or clan ,or people, or State, or nation whereas they all agree on everything.As we only have need of masterful mind within the Moorish Nation, as it is with all other nations and people, we also need problem solvers, not merely membership who have little backbone and no desire to assist in the furtherment of our Nation Moral growth and Spiritual development and needing our our social need. As a people who have been up under the evil influence and charm of a foreign people for over 361 years etc. . As our Holy Prophet Ali once declared that we need strong men and women who have race pride and love their race should only join the Moorish Divine and National Movement and if you can find a better place to learn the truth about yourself then you should wisely take on that membership . but to date even with our internal bickering, and the very first thing that anyone should know is who they really are and why they are in the sad shape that you are presently in as even with all our biickering we do know who we are , why we are, and how to begin to over come our foes and enemies etc, so May god be pleases with whatever good is attached to your name ….Peace

      • T. Matheno Matthews EL on said:

        Islam Mighty and Noble Moors,

        The Moor is correct, ” all other Nations have internal debates and arguments…”. Having given sincere thought to the views, opinions and perspectives of all, it appears simply the honest expressing of our knowledge according to the measure Allah has given each one. How then shall we arrive at the unity desired by all ?

        Leaving momentarily our present impasse, let us consider the conditions of our people, those very ones we are charged and equipped to uplift. After one hundred years, we find them in perhaps far worse conditions, disproportionally incarcerated, fatherless, untrained, drug dependent, literally on the verge of being wiped from the pages of history.

        Having ” traveled in the south “, and across most of these United States, the conditions are worse than I could have imagined, among many of the various factions of Moorish Americans, the conditions are downright SHAMEFUL !

        Every Moorish American IS legitimate, ” what your Ancient Forefathers were, YOU ARE TODAY…”, therefore, being the descendent of Moors and born in America cannot make me Chinese. We all must learn in order to grow, to become the strength of Allah made manifest, according to that purpose designed by Allah for each individual one of us.

        By the immeasurable Wisdom of an ALL Knowing God, none of us are complete nor perfected in our measure, without the aid and assistance of others, thus, ONLY ” where there is unity, there is strength “.

        We may disagree, we do not have to be disagreeable, neither hostile and unkind, perhaps the question of the hour is, how far are we willing to go to make peace and unity a reality ? For it is apparent that we shall but continue in the downward spiral of wasted time and opportunity absent some real, earnest work toward resolving those troublesome issues that plague this Divine and National Movement.

        Treating EVERY brother or sister according to the Asiatic Covenant , with a genuine love for Humanity may be the best place to start.

        Peace

  29. Bro. J maccray Bey on said:

    Islam Moors, praise Allah honors to Prophet Noble Drew Ali, the truth is one and can not pass away .honors to bro.C benet el, for telling the truth and the same to bro Ra saadi el. can you moors please explain the nationality card peace and Moorish love bro.J maccray Bey

  30. M.Love-El on said:

    Islam Moors,
    just going once more over all the information giving, me personally it didn’t take me long to see the problems in Inc, from running youth programs I quickly recognizing it as a a faction of thus said government. I rotate with all moors an I see some Moors don’t like that but, I came from gangbangin so all this beef is pointless, we still losing our youth, I sought after the moors an have been ask to join other secs of MSTofA but decided to stay under the profit cause I ‘m rolling with the profit, Now I’m in Nashville TN for all moors interested in my location an my Grand Sheikh is Braswel-Bey, all I’m saying is with all this bickering I’m left to fend for myself with the youth, where can my assistance come from if my elders are into conflict. Being a brother of the Red Black an Green I feel its pass time for a resolution, if you feel I’m in the wrong temple so be it speak on it, but I can only move in the light of my knowledge an if I no not its because yall (Elders) have taught not. I’m here family ready to do the work, looking for all able body Moors to help keep me as well as my circles I keep on the straight an narrow. 7digitalfiles@gmail.com holla at the Prince

    Peace
    M.Love-El
    Secretary of Temple #33

  31. Decarlos Bolden-Bey on said:

    ISLAM Brothers and Sisters, sympathizers and well wishers. I rise giving Praise to he who creates but is not create , i give Honor to his prophets Jesus Mohammed Buddha Confucious Wovoka etc… The problem i see is that the movement must progress with the ages, as long as we bicker about nothing we will never move forward we should believe in the concept of evolution that being thought and how we can advance the ideas of Love Truth Peace Freedom and Justice. The infighting of temples and members are causing members to lose faith and causing those who seek the truth to stop looking. I became a member of the moorish movement in 1993 and left the physical temple in 2003 i still support NOBLE Drew Ali and his teaching but i embrace the Native American way of life. My point being we are all related and should act as such. May your journey guide you to the marvelous light and may you find that still small voice. P.E.A.C.E. ( Please Educate All Children Equally)

  32. T. Matheno Matthews-EL on said:

    Islam , Islam, Islam ! The real issue ? I’ve got to stay with the Holy Prophet Moor-man , he clearly stated , ” There is but one issue “. Furthermore , Noble Drew Ali said , ” a member’s interest can only be in one direction “. ” Having traveled the road many years before , the Prophet knows ( he still knows Mo !) where every member is along the road…”. Brother,……I have no doubt you know these things , there are times that we choose to make some other issues number one , but Drew Ali says ” There is but one issue.. . “. Who can argue with that ? Now stop attacking Moor, I’m here to help you not to hurt you ! Personally , i intend to keep my hand in Allah’s Hand . Attacks come from friend and foe alike , ” storms roar against his shoulders but are unable to shake them “, Allah remains the Causeless Cause , the Rootless Root from which ALL things have grown . Religion , any religion is a person’s choice , Salvation is an absolute necessity ! ” Man is saved when he has reached deific life , when he and Allah are one…” , when man honors man , he honors Allah “, when man hurts any living thing by word , act , or deed , even to ” crush beneath his feet the meanest worm , he shakes the throne of Allah.”! Religion is useless when there is no God involved, it is like the empty ” idol of a people drunk on wine of carnal things ” , it becomes all argument and no essence , all tire and no air . Allah is not the author of confusion , but of Peace . The very word Islam , means peace and the goal of a man’s life according to Islam is peace , peace with Allah and peace with man. I believe that you know these thing my brother , I am letting it be known exactly where I am coming from . I’ve had various opportunities to look at some of your group’s work, there are tremendous opportunities for good , there is no need to attack other groups , period . ” Let not your good be evil spoken of “. Let your good works speak for you . The Holy Prophet Noble Drew Ali is “…the Founder of the uniting of the Moorish Science Temple..” , and of the Moorish Divine and National Movement , for the teaching and instructing of all Moorish Americans etc. Allah the Great God of the Universe sent us our prophet , empowered our prophet to establish his great work , Allah is leading on , and because Allah is leading on victory is an established fact . All things Moor , that exist on this plane is subject unto change , time changes , people change , rules change , procedures change , we may accept or resist change , we may be right in our views or we may be wrong , so , what do we do ? ” Establish THY heart in that which is right …and know that the greatest of human is to be immutable . It is Allah alone that guides the destiny of the Moorish Science Temple of America , I am fully persuades He guides every person who’s heart is right . The Moorish Americans were at the Birthplace of the American Constitution in Philadelphia Pa. flying our Moorish and American flags , think about that brother , they also went i believe into the chambers of the city hall a week or so earlier and received official recognition as America’s oldest Islamic organization . Not to focus on the negative things or wrong that is done, this entire United States of America knows who our prophet is , they know who the Moorish Americans are and what we are charged to do . Let us represent the Holy Prophet Noble Drew Ali and honor our Prophet by always showing respect and honor to each other . Our time has come , may our Father-God-Allah be pleased . Peace , my Moorish-American brothers and sisters in the spirit of our Holy Covenant Brother T. Matheno Matthews-EL

    • Moor Bey on said:

      All you moors talk about unity and uplifting humanity, yet are so divided as a nation! You all look weak with all this BS of who is the real deal!

      • Islam,

        So you rather we sit y at let so-Moors destroy the Movement! I guess your ok with turning your back on wickedness done in the name of The Moorish Science Temple of America. Remain being seated while we the true soldiers of Allah continue to protect the movement. Peace!

      • T. Matheno Matthews=EL on said:

        Islam Moor,
        Let me say this concerning ” turning my back on wickedness”, yes, that’s what I pray Allah gives me the strength to do. There is but one God and one judge, that deals with wickedness, ours, or anyone else’s . The same Allah that began the Movement, leads the Movement, not me, I’m not sure what you think, the real issue for every Moorish American according to the Holy Prophet Drew Ali is self.
        Allah protects this Movement, at lest that has been my experience, He is active and so are those that submit to His Will, Moor, to go the way we will have to turn our backs on a lot of things, things that we know have never done us any good, but has always harmed us.
        Some things will only work one way, this National and Divine Movement will only work one way, in the order of love, truth, peace, freedom and justice, we know what is love and what is hate, plain and simple. The prophet will not work with hate, it just will not work.
        This is a true and divine Movement, if we try to move in the wrong spirit we will get out of line with the prophet and Allah, we get the wrong approach and the wrong attitude, we begin to do more harm than good.
        The Prophet Drew Ali has mastered many a Moor, from different backgrounds, different measures of understanding, coming from different directions, Moorish Americans with different traditions and customs, yet they all love the Prophet, we have to represent our Prophet well brother.
        Yes we can all get fed up with sin and wrong doing, we must be careful not to bring the wrath down on our own heads by being hard headed and disobedient to our Holy prophet’s instructions, he said he was ” signed up to go a certain way with this government ” and we also must go that way.
        If we get out of order we will be labeled a terrorist group and that’s what some wicked folks want, if we stay with the prophet we can make it through the fire that is already here. Our people are waking up, we need to be ready to help them escape the wrath of Allah that is sure to come and be right that we may escape it ourselves . Peace

  33. Phillip on said:

    If there is an interest in learning and gaining one nationality…with all that you stated how would you suggest someone on the outside proceed to move if there is so much confusion on the inside?

    • Islam Bro. Phillip!
      The confusion is only with those who follow Truth and Falsehood; if you are sincerely seeking your heart will lead you right as it has been for many. We welcome you to visit our website or better yet visit one of our Temples to experience for yourself then go visit other Temples and compare. On our website we give some basic keys so anyone would know any legitimate Temple from a Fake Temple group or Members. We trust your journey to be one of Truth and enlightenment.

  34. Islamism Allah’s Prophet Noble Drew Ali is Right.May Allah’s Guidance Protect and lead We Moors to Salvation.Peace Love Law.

  35. Fred Kendricks-El on said:

    I got into the movement in the federal pen, where I had a chance to rotate with brothers from all over. After reading Bro. E. Pleasant- Bey’s book. I didn’t want to join the temple under R. Jones- Bey. But after meeting brothers from temple #4 I joined because of like minds. Long story short is there anywhere in Detroit I can build with the 1928 Moors?

  36. The prophet always stated that there would be dirty “Moor’s

  37. Nathaniel Mckoy on said:

    Wow! Allah willed for me to hear this. I filled out application in MST of A inc # temple 34 brother w Clendenin-Bey was in their preach n. That was 3 Sunday’s ago. That temple did not sit right with me. I been warned too about the non Profit org thing. Islam.

  38. Dbey turner on said:

    I TRULY DONT HAVE COMMENTS FOR ANY BROTHER OR SISTER IN THE MST OF A…BUT WHAT I DO WANT TO SAY IS THAT I’VE BEEN IN THR TEMPLE AND I TRULY LOVE THE MOVEMENT THAT THE PROPHET NOBLE DREW ALI STARTED….I TRULY UNDERSTAND THE MOVEMENT IN ITS WHOLE CAPACITY…THE ONLY INFO I CAN GIVE ANYONE CONCERNING THE MOVEMENT IS,IF ANY BROTHER OR SISTER LET ANY TEMPLE DISTRACT YOU FROM BEING WHO YOU TRULY ARE THEN ALOT OF THE BROTHERS AND SISTERS JUST HAVE’NT UNFOLDED YET…THIS IS’NT NONE OF THE BROTHERS OR SISTERS MOVEMENT THAT YOU ALL KEEP MENTIONING…THIS MOVEMENT IS GUIDED BY ALLAH THE ALMIGHTY,ETERNAL AND INCOMPREHENSIBLE…ANY PERSON GOING AGAINST ANYONE CONCERNING THE TEMPLE HAVE’NT GROWN AND UNFOLDED AS THE BUD UNFOLD TO SHOW THE FLOWER…PEACE AND LOVE AT ALL COST TO ALL MOORS…YOUR ACTIONS WORDS AND DEEDS IN LIFE IS THE PROOF OF YOUR MESSIAHSHIP,ANYTHING ELSE IS FOLLY AT IT GREATEST HIGHTS…PEACE…TEMPLE #1

  39. Islamish Moors! It’s Truly A Blessling To be Amongst The Multitude, To Teach & Learn.
    Moors at this hour I would just like to say, Thank You All for Creating such on A Form that’s differnt than Our Koran Questions For Moorish Americans, which is Our Building Block that All Masters Read out of. I am Not an Adapt Member. I’m just a Brother, Like so Many who seek, Then Find, Then left with Questions that will cause confusion, when the heart Only wants answers and the thirst, Knowledge! I’m Well Schooled in Our Moorish History & Europe’s Academics & his-story! I’m Told That Our Prophet wanted Us to get a good European education, for what reasons, Much Work for Moors to Do, on a Higher Level. I’m sure that Our Prophet would had Used any Moor as such. Moors, at Times, We have To Take Ourselves out, to See in. Our Holy and Divine Prophet is whom I follow! Peace!

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